Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Globalgunner]

The ironic thing is that Wenger will probably see Leicesters success last season as a validation of his own principles. Does anyone actually think he will study what they did and see if there are lessons to be learnt in style, personnel or training. He will rather most likely see that it proves you dont need to spend tons to win the league. Hence more scouting the lower leagues of Europe for the next big thing. He never learns it not just bad luck.

[Özim]

Arsenal under Wenger plays the most boring and frustrating football in the world. Name one club that plays more boring football than us, and be honest about it. Not even Maureen is as boring as Wenger. ANY person, doesn't even have to be a football manager, would deliver more entertaining football than Wenger. This doesn't mean they'd win, but at least the shit would be watchable. As things stand, our football is good for nothing - except maybe as an all-in-one sedative and laxative.

How experienced a manager do you have to be to tell a player in front of goal to shoot? Or instruct a midfielder to play the odd forward pass every now and again. I think anyone but Wenger is a valid slogan that has merit behind it. Get some piece of shit in and sack him after 5 games. But do SOMETHING to break out of this coma.

Agree with this, just want him out so I don't have to put up with that dogshite he calls football, the most boring manager in football, whose team plays the most boring football and even in the off season he manages to bore the pant of us with his non entity signings and kids, this is the worst the club has been since I've supported it, there's is just absolutely nothing to get excited about.

[Kano]

There has never in the last 10 years been a time where we did not have a team capable of achieving top 4
Pls be specific otherwise it is pure revisionism. The one thing Allardyce or any other sane manager would not do is see the same deficiencies each year and do nothing to correct them. The overwhelming feeling I get from Wenger is that he quickly, almost immediately brushes off each hopeless season as down to bad luck. Same again next season....this time with a little luck...and we will win everything!

P.S Allardyce is probably favourite to be next England manager. Hilarious I know but it seems others outside GW think he has some nous

You're using the FA as some sort of bar of competence? Allardyce will probably be a success for England because expectations no longer exist for the side, so anything beyond the last two jokers will be deemed successful - no matter how he gets the job done. He has all the average players he could dream of to choose from and can play the atrocious football that he and the rest of the international teams now revel in. No big club would touch Allardyce with a barge pole and at the age of 61, that is never going to change. And there are a multitude of reasons for that. With or without Wenger (hopefully the later at the end of the season) the club will still be playing dull, uninspiring football. Just like every other team in the league. This is what football has descended into on every level, so fans will have to find different reasons to keep watching, if that is a key element.

[dostoy]

The think we can't stand is the sameness every season, we never fall below a certain level but we never rise above it either, and as much as Wenger is stubborn, prevaricates on Transfers and does not learn from his mistakes....it is clear that the frustration with him is as much about familiarity breeding contempt. That's not a criticism of his detractors, i think it's understandable to be fed up season after season seeing the big trophies seemingly just out of grasp but in reality it's a mirror trick and we were nowhere near.

That is exactly it and put very well.

I am interested as much as anyone as to who we sign but does it really matter ?

We will probably get into the top 4 but have not got a chance of winning the PL and as for the CL, there is even less chance of winning that or even getting to the semi-final even.

I really want a new manager here, then things will change, maybe for the worse but probably for the better.

Under Wenger we know what is going to happen every season.

[Power n Glory]

If Allardyce was capable of making us more competitive than it stands to reason he'd have got a better job by now.

The joke is that people complain about the football being dull under Wenger, whilst i am sympathetic...what do you think it would be like under Allardyce?

Allardyce is a solid manager for clubs battling relegation or mid table clubs that is it, and whilst Wenger cannot take us forward and whilst top four isn't an achievement that is anything other than a means to an ends, he has done it with squads that have no business qualifying for the top four.

The think we can't stand is the sameness every season, we never fall below a certain level but we never rise above it either, and as much as Wenger is stubborn, prevaricates on Transfers and does not learn from his mistakes....it is clear that the frustration with him is as much about familiarity breeding contempt. That's not a criticism of his detractors, i think it's understandable to be fed up season after season seeing the big trophies seemingly just out of grasp but in reality it's a mirror trick and we were nowhere near.

And i think familiarity breeds contempt is a good way of explaining anyone seriously entertaining the idea that managers like Pulis, Allardyce etc would do a better job for us than Wenger, it's laughable really. The whole point of wanting to get rid of Wenger is to get a top manager in.....not wanting to get rid of him because some people have become so bored of him that they want to punch him in the conk every time they see him on television.

Playing devils advocate here. I've heard some folks here really shit all over Jose Mourinho's defensive brand of football and point to the amount of money he spends as reason for his success. Is it not possible for Sam to get something more out of a better team? I don't rate Allardyce at all but he's never been trusted with better players so we don't really know what he's capable of.

[Power n Glory]

It's what I suspected all along, he never has a go at players in public and he doesn't do it behind closed doors either, he just chooses to let them get on with it and occasionally come out with one of his one liners, this isn't management at all and isn't what young players need at all.

Let's be honest, very little has changed in 10 years, the same problems we had then are here now and nothing is ever done about them and it won't be, we all know that.

It's really not enough. I've heard players say he has given them certain tips after a chat but he really needs to drill it in on a day to day basis like he does want cutting out long balls from our game.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

This doesn't bode well for our new £33mill signing Xhaka. He seems to be a player who can do more than tip, tap it left and right. But the Swiss manager didn't fancy him doing more than that and Wenger certainly won't. Wenger is all about possession. If they other team doesn't have the ball then they can't score. Trouble is, without some variation to the play we may well keep the ball but the opposition has an easy job of it because we're so predictable and we'll never do that "vulgar" stuff that might stretch a defence. His training sessions should happen in a Dojo, not on a football pitch. He's not a football manager. He's something else.

Yeah Xhaka looks like a player who can ping a pass from one end to another.......but he needs a striker that can latch in to that kind of pass so hence the Vardy attempt and woe upon woe and tweak in Wumgers way of doing things?

But if that is true he can't give up on one knock back and ho hum back to the old way!

Know nothing about Icardi 16 goals and 9 leagues injured does not inspire confidence but the deal of infinite pounds plus Giroud for Higuain is bullshit.

Go for the Inter captain, keep Giroud, get Mahrez for whatever they want, 45mil is it? sell Walcott for 20?......get Turan for 20 as per paper reports and the CB from Napoli Kidou because he looks a bit of a beast. Holding in Chambers out on loan.

Have I gone over budget? Of course I have by about 4 players......FFS Wenger get the cheque book out because my suggestions will make us stronger without too much pain compared to other clubs, I mean 100mil for Pogba? It will be a cold day in hell before we go anywhere near that kind of transfer........I mean we could if we wanted.....where do UTD get the money didn't they break the bank to get DiMaria

Don't tell me Howard Webb is heading fair play commission?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Arsenal under Wenger plays the most boring and frustrating football in the world. Name one club that plays more boring football than us, and be honest about it. Not even Maureen is as boring as Wenger. ANY person, doesn't even have to be a football manager, would deliver more entertaining football than Wenger. This doesn't mean they'd win, but at least the shit would be watchable. As things stand, our football is good for nothing - except maybe as an all-in-one sedative and laxative.

How experienced a manager do you have to be to tell a player in front of goal to shoot? Or instruct a midfielder to play the odd forward pass every now and again. I think anyone but Wenger is a valid slogan that has merit behind it. Get some piece of shit in and sack him after 5 games. But do SOMETHING to break out of this coma.

I went to the Emirates twice in the last year and seen us play sides managed by Sam Allardyce and whilst we are predictable and anodyne....the entertainment factor in comparison to that offered by his side. Was like being blown by a high end
hooker whilst being served cocaine off a silver service tray by a dwarf whilst watching river dance being performed whilst Michael Flatleys legs are on fire.

[Munchies]

Icardi posted a picture of him in a Inter shirt with the Inter Milan colours a few hours ago on twitter



Griezmann

[dostoy]

Mario Gomez WILL leave Turkey this summer.

Get him, get someone good Wenger FFS.