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Thread: Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    It's time for Wenger move on, which means every manager in football is better than him.

    Or, the Owen Coyle syndrome, as it is sometimes called.
    Put Big Sam in charge of us last season with a transfer window and we'd have won a trophy

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    The disease continues to spread.

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    No, it means Wenger going is far more important than who comes in. If the new guy turns out to be a bag of shit then sack him. Like any normal club would do. Sack him after a week, a month, a year. Doesn't matter. The upheaval will be good for the club, even if we drop down the table. You have to actually change something if you want change. Because Wenger refuses to change then the change must be his removal. That's the result in itself. Even if Mr Bean was hired we'd still have that positive result. Of course we shouldn't go and hire a turd, we should get somebody decent in if we can. But that shouldn't become an excuse to deter getting rid of Wenger. Or don't bother with a manager at all if it's going to take a while to find the right person. Let the players sort themselves out and dump the rest of the stuff that Wenger insists on doing himself into the lap of the staff who should be doing it anyway and are paid to do it. If they are crap, sack them too. This club is ridiculous. It's paralysed, totally reliant on one man who hasn't managed to achieve anything in a decade. Before anything else can happen he has to go.

    Instead he'll get another contract. Then the greedy bastards will have what they wanted all along. The traditional fan base priced out or bored out and a bunch of tourists queuing to spend their cash. Fuckers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    Sam Allardyce. Dear God.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchies View Post
    Put Big Sam in charge of us last season with a transfer window and we'd have won a trophy
    never rated Big Sam. But I think he might be a great fit for England. Reminds me of that movie...Mike Bassett England Manager.
    Anyhow...
    Loved watching Bolton under big Sam... Beautiful football that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    No, it means Wenger going is far more important than who comes in. If the new guy turns out to be a bag of shit then sack him. Like any normal club would do. Sack him after a week, a month, a year. Doesn't matter. The upheaval will be good for the club, even if we drop down the table. You have to actually change something if you want change. Because Wenger refuses to change then the change must be his removal. That's the result in itself. Even if Mr Bean was hired we'd still have that positive result. Of course we shouldn't go and hire a turd, we should get somebody decent in if we can. But that shouldn't become an excuse to deter getting rid of Wenger. Or don't bother with a manager at all if it's going to take a while to find the right person. Let the players sort themselves out and dump the rest of the stuff that Wenger insists on doing himself into the lap of the staff who should be doing it anyway and are paid to do it. If they are crap, sack them too. This club is ridiculous. It's paralysed, totally reliant on one man who hasn't managed to achieve anything in a decade. Before anything else can happen he has to go.

    Instead he'll get another contract. Then the greedy bastards will have what they wanted all along. The traditional fan base priced out or bored out and a bunch of tourists queuing to spend their cash. Fuckers.
    Don't know about you but I quite enjoyed winning the FA Cups in the last decade I think fans are being way too harsh at this point in time. I too hope this is Wenger's final season, but I really hope he can go out on a high! I haven't forgotten what he has done on and off the pitch. We are mighty unlucky with the owners we have...but I blame Dein and the others for selling out. Everyone entitled to an opinion but it might be good to stop the Wenger bashing on match days and for the fans to get behind the team from the first minute to the last without the in house fighting. We're worse than the labor party right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10 View Post
    Don't know about you but I quite enjoyed winning the FA Cups in the last decade I think fans are being way too harsh at this point in time. I too hope this is Wenger's final season, but I really hope he can go out on a high! I haven't forgotten what he has done on and off the pitch. We are mighty unlucky with the owners we have...but I blame Dein and the others for selling out. Everyone entitled to an opinion but it might be good to stop the Wenger bashing on match days and for the fans to get behind the team from the first minute to the last without the in house fighting. We're worse than the labor party right now.
    It's possible to do both. I think that's something people need to come to terms with. If banners go up at a certain moment or a section of the crowd wants to sing 'One Arsene Wenger' then people should be left to do what they feel without the abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10 View Post
    Don't know about you but I quite enjoyed winning the FA Cups in the last decade I think fans are being way too harsh at this point in time. I too hope this is Wenger's final season, but I really hope he can go out on a high! I haven't forgotten what he has done on and off the pitch. We are mighty unlucky with the owners we have...but I blame Dein and the others for selling out. Everyone entitled to an opinion but it might be good to stop the Wenger bashing on match days and for the fans to get behind the team from the first minute to the last without the in house fighting. We're worse than the labor party right now.
    Now is the most appropriate time to call out Wenger and the club. When the season kicks off then that will be time to support the team, although that does not automatically imply support for the manager and the upper echelons who failed yet again last year and are busy failing in this transfer window. If the club goes into another season unprepared then as far as I'm concerned it's perfectly valid to be on the manager's case from day one and be relentless thereafter. That won't stop goals being cheered, that won't stop the team being supported.

    As for FA Cup wins, well if that's where we are pitching ourselves now then fair enough. If that is our level then let's say so and dispense with this idea of being among the elites. Of course any fan would prefer to win rather than lose an FA Cup, that's obvious. But winning it doesn't relieve the requirement to challenge to the finish line in the major competitions, the domestic title and the CL. There's no hiding behind the FA Cup for a club like Arsenal. Hull yes, Wigan yes. Arsenal, no, not a bit of it.

    Wenger knows what is required, just as he's known it these past 5 years. The club needs to spend money bringing in a top tier striker, and if that's not possible they need to bring in credible reinforcements for the mediocre strike force that isn't delivering. If Wenger and the club can't do that, if they pretend they can wave the FA Cup or an also-ran finish around whilst banking fortunes and charging king's ransoms then I hope most fans will be strenuously encouraging them to think again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10 View Post
    Don't know about you but I quite enjoyed winning the FA Cups in the last decade I think fans are being way too harsh at this point in time. I too hope this is Wenger's final season, but I really hope he can go out on a high! I haven't forgotten what he has done on and off the pitch. We are mighty unlucky with the owners we have...but I blame Dein and the others for selling out. Everyone entitled to an opinion but it might be good to stop the Wenger bashing on match days and for the fans to get behind the team from the first minute to the last without the in house fighting. We're worse than the labor party right now.
    Way too harsh? The fans have given him and the board way too much stress-free time to carry on as they've been doing, robbing a living off the fans who pay hard earned cash week in week out.

    If the fans were more outspoken, maybe he'd know he can't attack them in the media as he did last season and the board could know how the majority felt. They've tried to censor fans..

    A shame that if 1 fan doesn't go though, 100s of tourist fans would gladly take the seat, hence no impact to the board

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    Wijnaldum to Liverpool. £25m.

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