Alexandre Lacazette - OFFICIAL BID turned down

[Power n Glory]

I have no doubt they will respond if we increase our offer, they responded to West Ham's offers so I see no reason why they wouldn't follow suite with us. I personally think their stance is that they do not want to sell but would sell at a price they deem suitable to compensate themselves. Lacazette has a part to play in this too and if he wants to join us then he's going to need to go public about it.

I never suggested we increase our offer to what is their supposed valuation but we need to get serious if we are serious about the player and the player is serious about us. The 2nd offer should be somewhere near their valuation if they have one, I suppose what I'm trying to say here is that we shouldn't be sitting their waiting for Lyon to bend over backwards for us.

Edited to add: Rumours going around that offer was earlier in the summer for Lacazette so it seems it was a opportunist punt

Lyon have denied receiving a £40m bid so that's a hint at what they could be looking for. Regardless, our approach needs to change if we're serious about needing a pacey striker. We haven't come in with our best bid from the sound of things.

[Power n Glory]

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...ndre-lacazette

I told you.

Told what?

"The reality is that the club Arsenal made an offer worth 35m euros (£29m), which Lyon did not follow up on for one reason: OL will keep Alexandre Lacazette who is irreplaceable and who is one of the main leaders in Bruno Genesio's squad."

They deny the amount not the bid from Arsenal.

[Kano]

I have no doubt they will respond if we increase our offer, they responded to West Ham's offers so I see no reason why they wouldn't follow suite with us. I personally think their stance is that they do not want to sell but would sell at a price they deem suitable to compensate themselves. Lacazette has a part to play in this too and if he wants to join us then he's going to need to go public about it.

I never suggested we increase our offer to what is their supposed valuation but we need to get serious if we are serious about the player and the player is serious about us. The 2nd offer should be somewhere near their valuation if they have one, I suppose what I'm trying to say here is that we shouldn't be sitting their waiting for Lyon to bend over backwards for us.

Edited to add: Rumours going around that offer was earlier in the summer for Lacazette so it seems it was a opportunist punt

We shouldn't wait around, that I agree with but you need to have dialogue to know where to come in next, otherwise you're just shooting in the dark, hoping you'll get what you want. I don't know if Lyon spoke with West Ham because that was all media talk and 99.999% of everything we read is absolute bullshit (unless I missed some quotes from Lyon). My feeling is if you want to sell, you reject and tell the buyer it doesn't meet our valuation. Then the buyer can ask what that valuation is and go from there - but with nothing to go on...well, that's a pretty hard thing to buy.

[Özim]

Lyon have denied receiving a £40m bid so that's a hint at what they could be looking for. Regardless, our approach needs to change if we're serious about needing a pacey striker. We haven't come in with our best bid from the sound of things.

Let's not kid ourselves, as much as we'd like things to be different, we're as cheap at they come, putting in lowball offers, adding £1 on top of an existing bid, it's starting to look like we just do it on purpose to p*ss off the teams who own the players we make offers for so that it looks to the outside world like we're serious about signings quality players (reduces the pressure on the club).

Offering less than West Ham makes no sense at all, if their offer is turned down you'll know yours will be, we're the transfer market clowns, but I guess because the reality is we don't really want to spend the money if we can get away with it and dead end rumours and news of failed bids helps us on that score.

[AFC Leveller]

Ozim give it a rest fella, you manage to see the negative side in everything.

We bid and it if official, the windo wont close until next month and there is still time to sign him up.

[Özim]

Ozim give it a rest fella, you manage to see the negative side in everything.

We bid and it if official, the windo wont close until next month and there is still time to sign him up.

It's not going to happen IMO, if it was we'd have been in there and been quick to make another offer like most clubs do.

It's a lowball offer that was never going to be accepted in a month of Sundays, at the end of the day I'm not being negative it's reflective of our terrible transfer policy and transfer windows of the past, I'm not expecting any different now.

We've had 2 months to sign players and the players we're going for weren't even at the Euros, so I'm not buying this wait until the end of the transfer window nonsense, it should have been done and dusted by now the fact it isn't tells you all you need.

Interesting how we snapped up Xhaka a player we wanted with minimal fuss isn't it, that's because we were serious about him, transfers aren't often that complicated if you stump up the money.

Last summer it was the Benzema nonsense, the summer before the Higuain/Suares saga, this is yet another one in a long list of failed pursuits.

Can't believe people still buy into this stuff, the most feasible was that gy from Toulouse who comes cheap (Wenger will be rubbing his hands together) and is relatively undiscovered.

[Power n Glory]

Ozim give it a rest fella, you manage to see the negative side in everything.

We bid and it if official, the windo wont close until next month and there is still time to sign him up.

We’re looking for a striker. That’s a positive. But if this bid was made before we signed Asano…..

I can’t see us pulling this deal off. When it gets to the press this way we usually don’t sign the player. The press are usually on to the story once a deal has been wrapped up and waiting on a medical.

[Power n Glory]

Let's not kid ourselves, as much as we'd like things to be different, we're as cheap at they come, putting in lowball offers, adding £1 on top of an existing bid, it's starting to look like we just do it on purpose to p*ss off the teams who own the players we make offers for so that it looks to the outside world like we're serious about signings quality players (reduces the pressure on the club).

Offering less than West Ham makes no sense at all, if their offer is turned down you'll know yours will be, we're the transfer market clowns, but I guess because the reality is we don't really want to spend the money if we can get away with it and dead end rumours and news of failed bids helps us on that score.

Lyon deny West Ham bid £40m.

[selassie]

We shouldn't wait around, that I agree with but you need to have dialogue to know where to come in next, otherwise you're just shooting in the dark, hoping you'll get what you want. I don't know if Lyon spoke with West Ham because that was all media talk and 99.999% of everything we read is absolute bullshit (unless I missed some quotes from Lyon). My feeling is if you want to sell, you reject and tell the buyer it doesn't meet our valuation. Then the buyer can ask what that valuation is and go from there - but with nothing to go on...well, that's a pretty hard thing to buy.

Well them denying we have offered 48million Euros (40million GBP) is the biggest hint out there. It was also reported they wanted around 50million Euros for him earlier in the summer, all speculation I know.

Also, if you factor in that there have been strong rumours in the French media that Lacazette has handed in a transfer request then something must be going on in the background, whether we are the club involved remains to be seen.

The reason I mentioned about us being proactive is because we are notorious for putting in a single bid, unsettling a player and then walking away because we won't meet the clubs valuation, it's happened too many times over recent years to be unlucky.

[Özim]

Lyon deny West Ham bid £40m.

They actually confirmed it:

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...ndre-lacazette