But i think regardless i think we finally have the answer to whether things will get better when he goes, it won't...and i think the board want to keep him as much as anything because he's a useful lightning rod.
But i think regardless i think we finally have the answer to whether things will get better when he goes, it won't...and i think the board want to keep him as much as anything because he's a useful lightning rod.
Every time Gazidis opens his mouth, I just want to punch Wenger in the face.
You can just imagine Wenger if we don't buy a CB and he is questioned on it.Originally Posted by Munchies
Coquelin said on the Arsenal snapchat that he was training as a CB today
Internal solutions
That's our CB done
"Look, I must say Coquelin really impressed me when filling in at Centre Back, he will surprise a lot of you, the solution is not always to buy buy buy, we have lots of quality in Central Defence, we have Koscielny, Gabriel, Chambers, Holding, Coquelin, Monreal and don't forget we have Mertesacker coming back too".
Nahhhh
He will be more creative with his excuses, he will blame the pound's value in relation to the Euro as the excuse.
Question though...who would you buy?
My choice would be Ogbonna from West Ham, have wanted him ever since he was at Torino.
Not sure. Just because the board are happy with the bare minimum, it doesn't have to mean a new manager won't feel he has something to prove and that the players wouldn't respond to him. Clearly Wenger doesn't illicit a reaction from his players anymore and I think that's the biggest problem with him continuing on.
The best managers don't pride themselves on top 4 finishes, so even if that's the only thing the board are interested in don't be so sure the next manager won't be more ambitious himself.
Last edited by Marc Overmars; 28-07-2016 at 11:17 AM.
You are probably right.
I'd quite like that German guy at Valencia, Mustafi. He played in the Euros. We've been quite heavily linked with him and he's apparently available for 25mill Euros. He's quite a rugged CB but can pass and do most things at a fairly decent level.
Yeah Ogbonna is a decent CB, I quite like him. I like Winston Reid of West Ham too but I'm not sure he's good enough to be a bonafide starter for us.
A couple of wishlist type signings would be Varane of Real or Marquinhos of PSG, both young with world class potential.
I was specifically talking about us spending more, I don't doubt a different manager could be a better man manager and tactical innovator than AW.
We don’t have that answer. There are managers out there able to get more out of a smaller budget compared to what Wenger is given. Also, as said yesterday, the board have given Wenger the greenlight to spend £33m on an unknown player at a small club and seem to have no problem dishing out big wages for players that haven’t proven themselves to be worthy of that amount. Why? It’s a no brainer that we can’t spend £70m - £100m on a player like some other clubs. But I wouldn’t be so quick to draw conclusions about what’s really going on.
During 2013/14 season when we bought Ozil, we clearly needed a striker but bought Kimi with the broken back for cheap during the January transfer window. You came to the conclusions that we had no money left to spend. Apparently, we had spent everything on Ozil and couldn’t afford a striker during the winter window. It seemed like the logical conclusion since Wenger didn’t spend in an area we clearly needed the help. The next window arrives and we spend big. Was it close to £100m? Sanchez, Chambers, Ospina, Welbeck, Debuchy…so the conclusion you drew back then went out the window. So we’re at a similar point again and we just have to wait to see what happens. The window hasn’t closed and we certainly don’t know what this club would look like under a new manager. We don't know if the Board have tightened their belt or they're just backing the manager in public and playing down expectations a little.
I think we will certainly spend more (within reason), for example I can't imagine another manger in the world with the cash we have doing what Wenger did last summer. That was proof if ever we needed it that Wenger is risk averse and will favour his philosophy even if it's to the detriment of his squad. Other top managers are nowhere near as obsessed with getting value for money because they put the needs of the team first. Plus, in this day and age getting value for money has never felt more low on the agenda.
Last edited by Marc Overmars; 28-07-2016 at 11:33 AM.
I think in fairness i think what i've said has been misconstrued. All this nonsense about us not being able to compete financially means that whoever is manager the purse strings will be tight. I think there is an argument now to be made that us not matching the selling club's valuation for players we have wanted, is not entirerly evidence of Wenger prevaricating....but the club as a whole being tight.
I'm not trying to exonerate Wenger's poor squad and match planning and his inability to motivate his players during difficult periods.
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