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Thread: Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    If you look at the history, from day one there has been a reluctance to buy ready made quality. Instead you have a series of punts and cheap solutions. Even Henry was a punt, and this gets lost in the mix because of how good he became.

    When you look at strikers he's bought, you have to say that most of them were cheap stop-gap types, rather than actually buying the player we need.

    Anelka (unknown)
    Suker (Past it, stop gap)
    Wiltord (hardly top of the range)
    Boa Morte
    Henry
    Jeffers (FFS)
    Kanu (punt)
    Baptiste (fat punt)
    Eduardo (punt)
    Podolski (cheap faded star)
    Adebayor (unknown punt)
    Chamakh (FFS)
    Aliadiadiaidiaire (unknown)
    Gervinho (Don't make me piss my pants)
    Van Persie (Young unknown)
    Bendtner (punt)
    Park



    He has a long history of being a cheapskate. Albeit, he found great players in Henry and RVP.
    That's true of every position really....it's only in the last few years that he has spent the money on established players

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    Quote Originally Posted by bignev View Post
    I agree with you. However I think our aim is to get a better striker than Milik which is where the issue lies.


    We only want a top quality striker
    There are a dearth of top quality strikers who we could potentially sign anyway.
    We don't want to pay over the odd for a striker

    The above three things are not a good combination considering how desperately we need to make this signing. Especially because from the clubs perspective (not the fans) we don't want to pay over the odds for someone who Wenger doesn't consider top quality. Then we've signed someone who isn't a big improvement to the squad and we've spent lots of money doing it.

    Therein lies the problem.
    I really wasn’t impressed with Milik at the Euros. Napoli can have him. But I think we can learn from the way they’ve sold their two best strikers for massive fees and gone on to find replacements within a week of selling. Look at that turnaround compared to ours. We’ve had seasons to find a new striker whilst Napoli have lost two of their best strikers over the past 3 seasons but have replaced them within a week of losing them. That says a lot.

    But you’re right. We only want top quality but won’t pay the price. As Blink implied, we’re only interested in identifying undervalued players. There aren’t many top quality players available but I doubt we’d even sign Aguero or Suarez if offered to us at the going rate.

    Heck, I think we need to really consider bringing Van Persie back. If Flamini can be forgiven along with Sol Campbell.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    If you look at the history, from day one there has been a reluctance to buy ready made quality. Instead you have a series of punts and cheap solutions. Even Henry was a punt, and this gets lost in the mix because of how good he became.

    When you look at strikers he's bought, you have to say that most of them were cheap stop-gap types, rather than actually buying the player we need.

    Anelka (unknown)
    Suker (Past it, stop gap)
    Wiltord (hardly top of the range)
    Boa Morte
    Henry
    Jeffers (FFS)
    Kanu (punt)
    Baptiste (fat punt)
    Eduardo (punt)
    Podolski (cheap faded star)
    Adebayor (unknown punt)
    Chamakh (FFS)
    Aliadiadiaidiaire (unknown)
    Gervinho (Don't make me piss my pants)
    Van Persie (Young unknown)
    Bendtner (punt)
    Park



    He has a long history of being a cheapskate. Albeit, he found great players in Henry and RVP.
    Very true. Wiltord was probably the only striker we’ve bought that had some hype behind him when we signed him because of the Euro 2000 and he was our record signing for years. Yet he was played as right winger.

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    That Bergkamp signing is equivalent to near £100m today on a transfer.

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    Draxler wants to leave Wolfsburg? Get it done Gazidis you cock!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72 View Post
    Draxler wants to leave Wolfsburg? Get it done Gazidis you cock!
    Ivan has no money - didn't you hear him the other day? Poor sod is broke. Down to his last hundred mill.
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    We're not signing Draxler since we're not selling Theo or OX. Forget it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72 View Post
    Draxler wants to leave Wolfsburg? Get it done Gazidis you cock!
    Yeah he just gave a pretty damning interview to Bild (German version of The Sun) where basically he said he wanted to leave and was pretty scathing about Wolfsberg. Seems to have made his position untenable though we've seen footballers and their clubs reconcile from much worse in the past (Rooney with Man Utd, Ramos with Real etc etc).

    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...rg-this-summer

    After they've just let Schurle go I can't see them easily parting ways with Draxler easily nor as evidenced by Wenger's history, I can't see him ever paying how much Wolfsberg would demand (probably at least 40 million plus).

    Wouldn't mind him at all and I'd personally have a front three behind the striker of:

    Draxler ------ Ozil ------- Alexis

    Moves Alexis to his preferred right hand side position and we can have Ox as the first backup, with Campbell next in line.

    Theo can fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    If you look at the history, from day one there has been a reluctance to buy ready made quality. Instead you have a series of punts and cheap solutions. Even Henry was a punt, and this gets lost in the mix because of how good he became.

    When you look at strikers he's bought, you have to say that most of them were cheap stop-gap types, rather than actually buying the player we need.

    Anelka (unknown)
    Suker (Past it, stop gap)
    Wiltord (hardly top of the range)
    Boa Morte
    Henry
    Jeffers (FFS)
    Kanu (punt)
    Baptiste (fat punt)
    Eduardo (punt)
    Podolski (cheap faded star)
    Adebayor (unknown punt)
    Chamakh (FFS)
    Aliadiadiaidiaire (unknown)
    Gervinho (Don't make me piss my pants)
    Van Persie (Young unknown)
    Bendtner (punt)
    Park



    He has a long history of being a cheapskate. Albeit, he found great players in Henry and RVP.
    Ouch! That makes bad reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    We're not signing Draxler since we're not selling Theo or OX. Forget it.
    I wouldn't be so absolute about it.

    It's public knowledge that Wenger has rated him for a long time and when he does rate a player he usually is prepared to pay the going rate for him (see Xhaka, Ozil, Alexis etc). It's only when he has doubts about a players quality (Lacazette for example) is when he becomes reticent to part money and then stalls & delays, probably in the hope that something better appears.

    Clearly it's unlikely, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we agreed a 35 - 40 million deal with Wolfburg with Wenger then giving up on the striker hunt again and persisting another year with Giroud and Theo as our two main options.

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