Rob Holding (official).

[Power n Glory]

Should never have been making his debut under such conditions. Wenger mentally destroys defenders and I hope that doesn't happen with this kid. No major mistakes but far from stable.

[Gooner23]

I thought he looked ok. Could have got tighter for their 3Rd but if we actually taught our full backs how to cut out crosses the centre backs would be less exposed.

[Goonermerree]

Should never have been making his debut under such conditions. Wenger mentally destroys defenders and I hope that doesn't happen with this kid. No major mistakes but far from stable.

He did it with Chambers when he first came. It was one of those rare years when we had a depleted squad due to injury. His confidence was shot a few matches in.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Chambers is the one I worry about. Today, for the first time, I looked at him and thought.....you're probably never going to be a top class CB.

[radford78]

Agree re Chambers, he makes some really basic errors. Holding, considering where he has come from did better.

[Niall_Quinn]

tbf to Chambers, he's been training with Wenger for much longer than Holding. I have every confidence Wenger can destroy Holding's potential and maybe even more quickly than he's done with Chambers. Perhaps stick him on the wing, play him in goal. None of it could be any more crazy than Wenger's management of Chambers so far.

[Özim]

Let's not beat around the bush, he's a CB from a lower level, never going to be good enough for the PL at the moment (much like Jenkinson wasn't), had no business in playing today and never would have at any other club, but of course this club is a joke so it's nothing unexpected.

As for Chambers, thought it was odd we signed this him out of all Southampton players, he wasn't a standout player, just a cheap alternative to their star players, you get what you pay for as they say.

[Power n Glory]

tbf to Chambers, he's been training with Wenger for much longer than Holding. I have every confidence Wenger can destroy Holding's potential and maybe even more quickly than he's done with Chambers. Perhaps stick him on the wing, play him in goal. None of it could be any more crazy than Wenger's management of Chambers so far.

Bingo. People forget how good Senderos looked when he first had to step in for an injured Sol Campbell. FA Cup win we beat Utd on penalties and during the CL final run. It didn't take long for the Wenger effect to kick in. Killed his confidence after a promising start. Same happend to Djourou. They start well and fall to pieces after a couple of seasons. Chambers used to look decent.

[Niall_Quinn]

Let's not beat around the bush, he's a CB from a lower level, never going to be good enough for the PL at the moment (much like Jenkinson wasn't), had no business in playing today and never would have at any other club, but of course this club is a joke so it's nothing unexpected.

As for Chambers, thought it was odd we signed this him out of all Southampton players, he wasn't a standout player, just a cheap alternative to their star players, you get what you pay for as they say.

Soton fans rated Clyne > Chambers > Shaw and were gutted when Chambers left. He already looked like a very decent prospect in his first few games if you recall. Then Wenger did what he does with all young players, chucked him under a bus in a few key games and then started fucking around with his position and talking shit about him being a DM.

[Özim]

Soton fans rated Clyne > Chambers > Shaw and were gutted when Chambers left. He already looked like a very decent prospect in his first few games if you recall. Then Wenger did what he does with all young players, chucked him under a bus in a few key games and then started fucking around with his position and talking shit about him being a DM.

Shaw was their star, let's not pretend otherwise, hence his price compared to the cheaper Chambers. Yes Wenger doesn't help, but his sh*t cheap signings that he rates as better than what we have and super super quality are largely laughable.