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Thread: Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Bit of talk that Usmanov wants to sell his stake and invest in Everton.

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    What's going on with David Dein? Can he ever get back on the board with PHW gone? He backed both Stan and Usmanov to buy shares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    It does seem Wenger has tried to sign someone better so he must recognise it's a problem, but he's failed to and that's the problem. He doesn't seem that good at closing deals and frankly that shouldn't be his job anyway. The board should get someone in to deal with all that, all Wenger should be doing is identifying the players.
    Dick Law is his name. Cocking up deals is his game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Dick Law is his name. Cocking up deals is his game.
    There's a perception though that Wenger is far too involved, and maybe that's true. Is it Wenger saying he won't pay £31m rather than £30m and thus losing a player or is it Dick Law? If the latter then Wenger doesn't deserve as much flak as he's getting. If it's Wenger messing up deals by penny pinching then he deserves the flak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Bit of talk that Usmanov wants to sell his stake and invest in Everton.

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    Probably tired of having so many shares but having no say at all, all whilst having to watch Kroenke do absolutely nothing for the club. Probably wise to go to a club where has can have some influence. We'll be stuck with Kroenke for the foreseeable future by the looks of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    What's going on with David Dein? Can he ever get back on the board with PHW gone? He backed both Stan and Usmanov to buy shares.
    That ship has sailed, Dein is never coming back to the club unfortunately, if he was going to he would have by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Bit of talk that Usmanov wants to sell his stake and invest in Everton.

    Bye.
    His mate paved the way last season. I wondered what that was about, whether they'd had a falling out or whether it was part of a wider plan. It won't make any difference to us. Kronke has his claws sunk deep and won't be relinquishing as much as the stink off his shit in the foreseeable future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    There's a perception though that Wenger is far too involved, and maybe that's true. Is it Wenger saying he won't pay £31m rather than £30m and thus losing a player or is it Dick Law? If the latter then Wenger doesn't deserve as much flak as he's getting. If it's Wenger messing up deals by penny pinching then he deserves the flak.
    I wonder why?

    “I personally believe the only way to be a manager is to spend the club’s money as if it were your own,” he said, “because if you don’t do that you’re susceptible to too many mistakes.

    “You make big decisions and I believe you have to act like it’s your own money, like you’re the owner of the club and you can identify completely with the club.

    “Because if you don’t do that I think you cannot go far.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    There's a perception though that Wenger is far too involved, and maybe that's true. Is it Wenger saying he won't pay £31m rather than £30m and thus losing a player or is it Dick Law? If the latter then Wenger doesn't deserve as much flak as he's getting. If it's Wenger messing up deals by penny pinching then he deserves the flak.
    I think Wenger does have final say in a lot of situations. There was a thread on Reddit about Kim Kallstrom's time at Arsenal (a really good read btw) that transcribes an interview he had on Swedish radio recently. For example, when he was going through his medical on transfer deadline day, the med staff picked up his back problem that would have killed his move in most cases. Wenger was in the room and despite the advice, overruled and made the final call to still sign him, even though he wouldn't be available for two months. So I would imagine Wenger would have the final say in transfers too. But what bothers me is how easily fans are influenced by media transfer stories. It's quite sad really. Wenger deserves flak for failing to manage the team, our repeated failings and for not getting in players quickly enough. But when the media lead the narrative on what we are/not doing in terms of negotiating, it frustrates me. Arsenal fans are easy targets (because of Wenger's failings in finding players quickly enough) the media exploit that to the fullest and fans fall for it each and everytime. The problem is I guess, that while the media do not deserve the benefit of the doubt, the club hardly do either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I wonder why?
    Well all know Wenger is cheap, let's not pretend otherwise, he's like a squirrel collecting nuts for the winter, but then winter comes and he doesn't use up the nuts, he keeps them so that next year he's got more nuts and when looking for a new nest the following near another squirrel offers him a nest for 1 nut, Wenger offers him 0.41 of a nut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    That ship has sailed, Dein is never coming back to the club unfortunately, if he was going to he would have by now.
    Well, I would have thought PHW was the only one blocking the move but since he's gone....

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