Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Marc Overmars]

Leicester will be nowhere this season and they got Vardy and more importantly Mahrez signed up. Impressive tbf.

[Özim]

Another BS rumour out the window, not too many left now, what BS rumour are we going to use to drag this on until the end of the window and then use the "no players available" sob story.

Leicester now a more attractive proposition than us, this club is absolutely pathetic.

[Özim]

Leicester will be nowhere this season and they got Vardy and more importantly Mahrez signed up. Impressive tbf.

Not so fussed about the one season wonder, but keeping Mahrez is impressive I agree.

[Munchies]

Mahrez

Good on him for staying, rewarded with a good deal too. Wouldn't join us either

[Marc Overmars]

Valencia's director has admitted they need the money from selling Mustafi to meet FFP regulations, hence the stand off in valuation.

[Kano]

Mahrez signs a 4 year deal with Leicester. That puts us all out of our misery those of us who still had lingering hopes of him coming.

It was always just media bullshit from the off, most likely set in motion by his agent eager to secure himself a new pay day and a pay rise for Mahrez after they had seen Vardy do the same.

[Kano]

Leicester will be nowhere this season and they got Vardy and more importantly Mahrez signed up. Impressive tbf.

Definitely a bit easier to do when you're champions tbf and stepping into the CL for the first time. Wouldn't surprise me if those deals have clauses that allow the players to look elsewhere if it all goes tits up.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I honestly don't see what the problem is. Well, that's a lie. I see what the problem is but the flaw isn't with the set up.

I don't know how much Wenger is involved with the details of a contract, but what's the problem with him having an overall say? You'd want someone like Stan or the negotiating team to make that final call without the manager being involved? Why? That's going the wrong way isn't it. Wouldn't the financial consequences take precedent over football? The guy with the football hat on should be trusted to make the right call. That should be Wenger. I can't imagine any other manager with this sort of trust and power putting finances over football.

I think of Klopp at Dortmund with that Gotze situation. If it were possible to offer the player whatever he wanted to keep him, why do otherwise? Leicester have just done it with Vardy. They put up a fight and offered him a new deal. No rubbish about 'we can't match the wages of clubs like Arsenal'. Fergie faced the same with Rooney and told the club to cough it up.

Why is that we're having to put measures in for Wenger to make the correct footballing decision? I don't get it. It's really backwards. We should be able to trust his judgement.

It's not about Wenger, neither is it about not trusting a managers judgement. It's about not dumping everything in the managers lap and the manager making a decision whether a player deserves a contract extension and being able to trust people to handle it for him (the way David Dein did at Arsenal). If the club decides it cannot or will not pay the player the wages he is demanding that is a matter for the club because it's the club and not the manager paying those wages, if it's a matter of in the case of Gotze that you cited being drawn to interest from a bigger club, a manager will obviously sit down with that player to persuade him to stay but that's not the same as contract negotiations.
And you say I don't see the problem with the manager having the final say? He is having the final say he has made the decision as to whether that player deserves another contract or not, and he's left the details in the hands of other people.

It's not always as simple as that, same with list of players a manager wants to buy...that player may not be affordable for the club but then it's for the manager to provide alternative names, and then say I want that player. And then leaving it to others to iron out the details, as with the above examples it's about being able to delegate. Half the problem starts because Wenger cannot delegate, but he's still an employee at the end of the day and if he himself is a barrier to transfers getting done the board if they cared would say "no Arsene leave it with us, we will get it done".
Wenger isn't a confrontational figure, he might not be happy about it but would accept it.

[Goonermerree]

Definitely a bit easier to do when you're champions tbf and stepping into the CL for the first time. Wouldn't surprise me if those deals have clauses that allow the players to look elsewhere if it all goes tits up.

According to Sky earlier it comes wit no buy out clauses.

[Goonermerree]

Arsenal are in talks with Atletico Madrid over defender Jose Gimenez, but his £40m valuation could be a stumbling block, the Daily Mail reports.
The 21-year-old is thought to have a release clause of around £56m, and he made 37 appearances under Diego Simeone last season.

From Sky. Oh somebody stop me from looking at the transfer stories!!!!!