It's really hard to understand his behaviour when he talks about respecting the game and it being close to religion. Doing everything to serve the game and not your ego. Making the right choices that serve the game and not yourself. He's lost his way. Digging his heels in like this is hurting the club.Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I'm just pointing out that we have a owner who is a cunt. If you find what he did with the Rams franchise acceptable that's up to you, but it's purely and totally driven by money and nothing else. He is basically persona non grata in his home state and to argue that this kind of individual represents anything but bad news for us...well I'm sorry I don't understand.
I don't even get the point of this discussion it seems to me that it all comes down to wanting everything to come down to it just being Wengers fault and that we can wipe the slate clean when he goes, I don't see it....Wenger seems to me to be the symptom of a much larger disease.
I honestly don't think Arsenal will reach its potential unless Kroenke sells the club, and that won't happen because this is not a guy who sells the sporting franchises he accumulates.
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We'll talk about this stuff, yet again, for a couple more weeks and then we're into another season already knowing the outcome. I won't be here next season though, if he's still here. There's only so many times you can go through the same old routine and not become utterly bored by it all. Unless you are Wenger, in which case the more times around the wheel the more justification for your fantasies. What would be humiliation to anybody else is a source of pride for him. He boats about it. 20 years and he reckons he hasn't done too badly. As if not doing too badly is a measure of success. His aim is super low. He hits his insignificant target year after year. A few people get rich. A few more fans get replaced by consumers. He's dragged the whole club down to his lamentable standards and the embarrassment to ice the cake is he works his nuts off to achieve... nothing. It's pathetic and he's making all of us just as pathetic, hanging around here analysing his shit. This is like watching Mr Bean and getting angry when Bean gets it all wrong. Of course he gets it wrong, he's Mr Bean. Bean thinks he's done a great job though, that self satisfied smile, the pride at his hysterical achievement. Well we all know what Wenger should be doing, but he won't do it, he'll do the opposite. Because he's Wenger. And that little smile, the self congratulatory superiority. Do you laugh, do you scream, or do you just walk away from the insanity before your brain short circuits?
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So you don't know what you're talking about.
This is all air. You're saying nothing about the structure, how it relates to us and yes, he's a cunt, but how does his cuntishness differ from the other cunts running other clubs? You can't answer that... cool. Move on. But it would be good to hear from someone that really knows about him or how other clubs are run. I'm genuinely interested and wrongly assumed you knew something more. If you don't know the point of the discussion, quit trolling and approaching every conversation as if I'm your opposition or as if their is some sort of devious agenda that's out to make Wenger look bad. When you look at things from all angles, things may start to make a little more sense even if you don't agree with it.
Trivialisation of rape isn't really appropriate, to be honest.
Oxford English Dictionary:
2. The wanton destruction or spoiling of a place: "the rape of the countryside"
As I previously said. The word is entirely appropriate.
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That's about all that needs to be said about that guy really.
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I know what you mean. If I see the same line up that failed last season against Leicester, I'm checking out until deadline day. If we don't make any major moves on the final day, then that's me for the season and until Wenger goes. I can't take another season of the same crap. It's a huge waste of time.
He's really lost sight of the purpose of this project. He's kept us stable and if being objective, we really are in a unique position as a club. We're on the verge of doing something no other club has done before. Humble beginnings and now close to being up their with the elites. It's something. But at what cost? We're close to losing our soul as a club. For the fans to wait 10 years to get here and have this con pulled on us is pretty disgraceful. It's worse because Wenger has been totally complicit and recent quotes even suggests he's the driving force for this robbery. Why? I don't get why he's so blind to the outrage when he's been with us from the start. I can understand how and why Stan would feel disconnected. Heck, Silent Stan is a silent partner in all this. That's not shocking to me. There are plenty of business models where the silent partner has no real passion for the art but it's the artists and creative that are the driving force to make the best of what they have. That's why I really don't understand Wenger. Especially when I read old stories about his character. Every quote I read about transfers seem to contradict his character. Has he lost his love for football?
I can't understand how he hasn't seen how this is eating away at fans. Even if he felt like he was doing the right thing at one point and serving football, putting aside his ego and willing to go without trophies, how can he not look at what the fans and players have been calling for and not feel like he's betraying the game? How can he not see that he's doing a disservice to players that have believed in him and wasted their prime under him. All for the purpose of keeping shareholders happy. We are being robbed. I get where you're coming from and there comes a point where we have to walk away.
As you all refuse to talk about unrealistic transfers.....
He's become an elite version of Curbishley.....
Palace agree 32m fee for Benteke.
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