Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Özim]

Of course he cares. The disconnect comes from he deems as sufficient enough to do a successful job - or even what he deems as success now. As far as he is concerned, he is doing what is necessary to be successful. But nearly all of us - on this small fan board - see it differently.

What makes you think he cares, where's the evidence, sure he likes his job but why wouldn't he, he gets paid a packet to do exactly what he wants and has the most stable job in football and doesn't have to answer to anyone, sounds like a perfect job to me?

It's all too easy to say he cares, those are just words, I don't see the evidence though.

[Power n Glory]

The difference is that Hill Wood had Dein who could persuade or encourage Wenger to be more bold, i don't think Gazidis has that same influence or is allowed to exert it.

The difference is whatever you or I think of Hill Wood, for most of the time when he was chairman the manager was accountable and had the appropriate level of support, and the malaise and laissez faire attitude that he seemed to be fond of has been institutionalised under Kroenke.

The probability is that things were better because of Dein, because he was Wenger's boss in more than name only unlike Gazidis. And it is abundantly clear that Gazidis cannot function in that role because of Kroenke.

I disagree. We had seasons where PHW would announce we had a war chest with money to spend and Wenger would get away with signing one experienced player like Silvestre or Vermaelen. Things have actually gotten better and not worse since Gazidis came on board. It;s just now the swindle is more blatant. Days when PHW used to announce a war chest with £60/£70m for Wenger to spend or whatever it was, nobody believed the money was available in the first place because we'd never spend it. Difference today is we know the money is coming in and the rubbish about 600 employees to spend on doesn't wash with the fans anymore.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I disagree. We had seasons where PHW would announce we had a war chest with money to spend and Wenger would get away with signing one experienced player like Silvestre or Vermaelen. Things have actually gotten better and not worse since Gazidis came on board. It;s just now the swindle is more blatant. Days when PHW used to announce a war chest with £60/£70m for Wenger to spend or whatever it was, nobody believed the money was available in the first place because we'd never spend it. Difference today is we know the money is coming in and the rubbish about 600 employees to spend on doesn't wash with the fans anymore.

But then Gazidis comes out with the convoluted hog wash about us not being out to compete with other clubs in order to try and Spin Wenger's incompetence....only for Wenger to decide he didn't want to be protected until he realised that his out of date approach to signing players was getting him nowhere.

As i said previously the system worked better when Dein was there, i just don't believe someone like Dein could exist at Kroenke's Arsenal. And Gazidis is essentially a Kroenke yes man, ordered to mop the floor after Wenger has made a mess.

[Munchies]

Arsenal are in danger of missing out on signing Valencia defender Shkodran Mustafi, according to Guillem Balague.

"Valencia's position is such because they don't think they can find someone to replace him, given the proximity of transfer deadline day. It's a similar stance to the one they have with Barcelona target Paco Alcacer, or at least that's the message they are giving out.

"So, as things stand, neither Mustafi nor Alcacer will be leaving Valencia. I heard Arsene Wenger confirm publicly that Arsenal were in negotiations for Mustafi. That's very rare for him to do so. Perhaps he is trying to apply some pressure on Valencia to sell.

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...uillem-balague

[Kano]

What makes you think he cares, where's the evidence, sure he likes his job but why wouldn't he, he gets paid a packet to do exactly what he wants and has the most stable job in football and doesn't have to answer to anyone, sounds like a perfect job to me?

It's all too easy to say he cares, those are just words, I don't see the evidence though.

You don't, I do, so who's right?

[Munchies]

Who knew being a tight cunt for 2 weeks and haggling over £5m would lead to Valencia telling us to fuck off?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Arsenal are in danger of missing out on signing Valencia defender Shkodran Mustafi, according to Guillem Balague.

"Valencia's position is such because they don't think they can find someone to replace him, given the proximity of transfer deadline day. It's a similar stance to the one they have with Barcelona target Paco Alcacer, or at least that's the message they are giving out.

"So, as things stand, neither Mustafi nor Alcacer will be leaving Valencia. I heard Arsene Wenger confirm publicly that Arsenal were in negotiations for Mustafi. That's very rare for him to do so. Perhaps he is trying to apply some pressure on Valencia to sell.

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...uillem-balague

Probably true but usually loathe to think there is anything factual in a paragraph that reads "according to Guillem Balague" who seems to be remarkable in that he's wrong about everything, the law of averages suggests he should be at least right some of the time but he just isn't....impressive.

[Power n Glory]

But then Gazidis comes out with the convoluted hog wash about us not being out to compete with other clubs in order to try and Spin Wenger's incompetence....only for Wenger to decide he didn't want to be protected until he realised that his out of date approach to signing players was getting him nowhere.

As i said previously the system worked better when Dein was there, i just don't believe someone like Dein could exist at Kroenke's Arsenal. And Gazidis is essentially a Kroenke yes man, ordered to mop the floor after Wenger has made a mess.

I don't think Gazidis said that to try and cover for Wenger. It's Wenger that's in the firing line.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I don't think Gazidis said that to try and cover for Wenger. It's Wenger that's in the firing line.

So it's just a coincidence that he came out with the statement at the time when Wenger's dithering had hit it's peak?

[Özim]

You don't, I do, so who's right?

Well I can provide evidence to as to why I think he doesn't:

1) Blames the fans for the teams problems
2) Never addresses the problem areas
3) Would rather do things his way than the logical way, even if it affects our chances of success
4) Makes all the excuses under the sun as to why he doesn't spend
5) Doesn't think twice about choosing his favourite players over players who are better suited/have performed better
6) Dismisses the fans concerns as media influence/doesn't care about fans being unhappy and pretends we're entertaining despite evidence to the contrary
7) Supports and defends season ticket increases

Where's your evidence to support your opinion?