Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Özim]

I think there's something in that. He does want to win in the 'right' way and while that is in some ways admirable it needs to be mixed with a bit of pragmatism and we're now perfectly able to spend big without putting ourselves in financial difficulty.
Ozil and Sanchez showed he is willing to spend money but overall we seem hopeless at closing deals.

It's not admirable when you point the finger at everyone else including the fans and absolve yourself or your team of any blame, it's pretty pathetic in fact. There's nothing admirable about the way Wenger is doing things, everytime he talks it's hard not to cringe at the hole his digging himself, if only the journalists challenged him on some of his theories.

[selassie]

I think there's something in that. He does want to win in the 'right' way and while that is in some ways admirable it needs to be mixed with a bit of pragmatism and we're now perfectly able to spend big without putting ourselves in financial difficulty.
Ozil and Sanchez showed he is willing to spend money but overall we seem hopeless at closing deals.

The 'right' way is not admirable anymore, it's damaging for the club in retaining and acquiring top class players. We are now in a position where due to his stubbornness we could lose both Ozil and Sanchez, it makes no sense for Wenger to be like this because it's causing the club problems.

I can't claim to know the EXACT reason to why we can't close deals...I've had various debates with Kano about this and I still stand by my opinion that Wenger just dithers and haggles (he is known for it), it seems to be happening with the Mustafi deal now...a deal we should have completed at the start of the summer IMO or a deal for a CB of the same standard.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Is that covering for Wenger or himself? It's not smart considering the climate and Gazidis is no fool.

Gazidis has done some stupid things in the past, let's not forget this is the man who tried to approach a Russian Telecom company for potential sponsorship deal without bothering to research where upon he'd have discovered that Alisher Usmanov was a major shareholder for it. Given the relations between the club and Usmanov at the time it was a major PR faux pas.

[Power n Glory]

We were talking about Wenger's feelings and attitudes. You don't think an interview with a man who worked with him for years and still sees him regularly is relevant to that debate?

The whole debate is irrelevant. Cares/doesn’t care…..he’s not the right man for the job. That’s all it boils down to. It's a poor debate and no idea why it keeps going down this route. Who cares what he feels.

[Özim]

The 'right' way is not admirable anymore, it's damaging for the club in retaining and acquiring top class players. We are now in a position where due to his stubbornness we could lose both Ozil and Sanchez, it makes no sense for Wenger to be like this because it's causing the club problems.

Spot on, nothing admirable about it, he's actually damaging the club as you say, the fans are unhappy and saying as much, there's a bad atmosphere, the results aren't good enough and people who once loved this club are now beginning to be indifferent about it, trouble is he really doesn't care.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The whole debate is irrelevant. Cares/doesn’t care…..he’s not the right man for the job. That’s all it boils down to. It's a poor debate and no idea why it keeps going down this route. Who cares what he feels.

There I do agree with you

[Power n Glory]

Gazidis has done some stupid things in the past, let's not forget this is the man who tried to approach a Russian Telecom company for potential sponsorship deal without bothering to research where upon he'd have discovered that Alisher Usmanov was a major shareholder for it. Given the relations between the club and Usmanov at the time it was a major PR faux pas.

That's not relevant to how he handles the relationship between the fans and club.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

That's not relevant to how he handles the relationship between the fans and club.

I don't think that comment was directed at the fans at all, it was directed at the media who do like to make a circus of the summer transfer activities of premier league clubs, i think he could see that once again Wenger was dithering and would give him an out by saying that the club didn't have the means to spend wantonly.

Which is exactly the same narrative Wenger has adopted now he's realised he has failed.

[Letters]

The 'right' way is not admirable anymore, it's damaging for the club in retaining and acquiring top class players. We are now in a position where due to his stubbornness we could lose both Ozil and Sanchez, it makes no sense for Wenger to be like this because it's causing the club problems.

I can't claim to know the EXACT reason to why we can't close deals...I've had various debates with Kano about this and I still stand by my opinion that Wenger just dithers and haggles (he is known for it), it seems to be happening with the Mustafi deal now...a deal we should have completed at the start of the summer IMO or a deal for a CB of the same standard.

Agreed, but he shouldn't be in the position to haggle or close deals, that shouldn't be his responsibility. A big problem with the club is that the board have let him take over far too many areas of things.
He needs a David Dein figure to help out with things like this.

[Letters]

I think PnG should just tell us what we are and aren't allowed to discuss on here. It would stop us all wasting our time.