Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Power n Glory]

That doesn't mean Wenger initially sought the loan option himself. I think Wenger is open minded about it particularly as his own future is uncertain.

Yeah, I read reports saying Jack asked to be loaned out after learning he had fallen down the pecking order. It sounds like a mutual decision. Wenger won't block a player from moving if he wants to play football when in that position. But I also think Wenger respects a player that will work hard in training and win his place back by showing discipline and being patient. Even if Jack has a tremendous season with Bournemouth, he won't be given a first team spot unless we have injuries. That pecking order will still be in place when he comes back.

[Özim]

Wilshere's days are numbered, poor discipline off the field, too many injuries and a lack of decent performances on it have put pay to his chances, credit to Wenger he's spotted it's time to wave goodbye to this overhyped wannabe, that's what he is, cam with all the hype and never delivered.

A year long loan with no option to return and going to a place where there's a notoriously big nightlife and his best mate Afobe doesn't bode well, he seems to like a good night out, not many players go out on loan at 24 and return to become 1st teamers for their club, think he has 1 year left on his contract when he returns as well.

[dostoy]

He will never play for Arsenal again, not that he played much anyway.

Almost permanently injured, not much good on the very rare times he is fit, poor disciplinary record off the pitch.

He is the one Arsenal player I don't like, in fact I cannot stand the little shit.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[selassie]

I'm not sure what the long term plan is for Jack, we've been very patient with him up until now and despite the fact he has been unfortunate with the injuries his off-field antics including sniping about Arsenal not playing him centrally would have done him no favours.

The talent is there but if he can't stay fit and string a good run of games together then he is of no use to us or any team for that matter.

It's up to him to work hard out on loan, put in stellar performances and make himself indispensable to us. I personally think this is his last chance, he's stagnated over the past what 5-6 years due to lack of game time so he needs to keep his body in shape and perform and he needs to do it now.

[Marc Overmars]

Injures have ruined any chance he's had of realising his potential but I can't say he's a better player now than he was 5 years ago. All the bad habits are still there and I'm not convinced he's ever going to evolve his style of play.

We've all been guilty in the past of overrating him but let's hope he can stay injury free and at least show once and for all what he's capable or not capable of.

[Power n Glory]

Injures have ruined any chance he's had of realising his potential but I can't say he's a better player now than he was 5 years ago. All the bad habits are still there and I'm not convinced he's ever going to evolve his style of play.

We've all been guilty in the past of overrating him but let's hope he can stay injury free and at least show once and for all what he's capable or not capable of.

That's the story of must of the young players unfortunately. It has to boil down to bad management to have so many young players that aren't improving.

[selassie]

That's the story of must of the young players unfortunately. It has to boil down to bad management to have so many young players that aren't improving.

Yep, none of our British core have really improved, Ramsey had a spell where he looked nailed on to develop into a World Class Midfielder but he's stagnated too, well at least for us he has even if he did look very good at the Euros with Wales.

It's down to the management, no doubt.

I personally think some of the British core were never quite as good as we originally thought (me included). But I do think the likes of Ramsey, Wilshere and to a lesser degree OX should be a lot further ahead in their development.

[Power n Glory]

Yes, I think Ox, Ramsey and Wilshere have the core ingredients to be better than what they are.

[Penguin]

It's really disappointing how little our youth players develop. They all start out promising but something is going wrong. As MO said about Wilshere, they all have the same flaws as they did when they all broke through. Sometimes you just wonder what it is we teach these kids apart from triangle keep-ball. That and turning them into crocks.

[I am invisible]

The groundwork is clearly being laid for Jack to return as next summer's big LANS. Think about it... £100m spent in one summer... that's us done spending for the next decade! You know I'm right.