Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
The ONLY thing that is going to solve this issue, and may others, is sacking the manager because the manager is the problem. And considering the manager has been messing around like this for a decade, regardless of who is in the team, means nothing is going to change while the manager is here. You can't say, how do we change it without sacking the manager, when sacking the manager is the thing that will change it.

If Wenger doesn't go then everything else is irrelevant.
You might as well check out until Wenger leaves in that case. What more there to discuss if all this is pointless to you?