Would you be happy for players to get away with such challenges on us all the time and they go unpunished? Refs being consistent is a separate issue. But would you rather see refs be more lenient or strict? I'd welcome stricter punishments for such fouls because we're usually on the end of them. If this season we see more harsher punishments, I'd be OK with it. Xhaka is the only real liability in the squad.Originally Posted by Penguin
Good going forward, crap defending TBH. Kos and Mustafi need to do much better if we have any chance of silverware. Their positioning was terrible, better teams would have punished us.Walcott at the end
Made it harder work than we should have but overall a good win. Think that's 9 wins out of 10 in all competitions, not too bad.
I'd probably welcome it too but only if the rules are the same in Europe. It might put us at a disadvantage in the CL if not
Stupid unclear rule change hardly applied in anger hitherto. one cynical tackle you get a yellow, another and your off. Why does it need to be straight to red?
And NQ is right....all this crap and yet where is the rule change for a blatant dive?....or anything that would have seen Costa off in his first 4 or so games, games in which he shouldn't have remained on the pitch for?
But back to our football, we really need to take better control of these games.
The rules in Europe have always been harsher but I can't see how it will put us at a disadvantage.
I think it's clear. I have no real problem with the rule. I think Xhaka's challenge was a clear cut example of how it should be applied. If no attempt to play the ball and it's that blatant, it should be a red. Imagine if Ox were taken down cynically like that when he made his last run? I don't think the players should have a safety net to pick up a caution in those types of situations. It's not in line with the spirit of the game to be able to disrupt a move like that with no intention of playing the ball. If it were the type of slide tackle that we see all the time, the hard challenge where the player either gets the ball or the man, that's worthy of a yellow if he wipes the player out instead of winning the ball. You can at least argue it's a challenge for the ball.
As for dives, should be a straight red if it's blatant but I think they need replays to apply this one. Tricky players that get clipped or simulation where they make the most of contact....I can see a lot of refs getting that one wrong if it's a straight red. Many will be wrongfully sent off. They need video replays to deal with that one.
Makes no sense. You want care applied for divers but not for their victims? We already have specialist box divers like Rooney and Costa. Now we'll see this happening all over the pitch. And to make it worse it will now be ten times more likely that incompetent or corrupt refs influence results.
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I didn't say that at all. What's happened to your comprehension skills? I said it should be a straight red for a blatant dive but with many con artists in the game you need video replays to catch the real sneaky ones. We've seen cases where contact looks minimal but on a replay you see a player has been clipped and a penalty should be awarded but the ref waves on. We've seen it happen to us plenty of times. You need video replays for this. Gary Neville explained this issue perfectly. It's not an easy one to rule on unless the ref is 100% it was a dive with no contact.
No surprise that their second goal came down our left hand side
Monreal is a real weak link in this Arsenal side currently, to let routledge get past him the way he did just not good enough
If Wenger doesn't trust Gibbs, we should be looking to sign a left back in January (of course we clearly won't)
Not as easy as saying it's just Monreal. I don't see Iwobi back there much and he gaps inbetween Kos and Monreal were too big at times.
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