Way too easy to blame Monreal. Iwobi has to step his defensive game up and I hope Wenger has a word with him about defending. Monreal was fine when playing with Sanchez.
Way too easy to blame Monreal. Iwobi has to step his defensive game up and I hope Wenger has a word with him about defending. Monreal was fine when playing with Sanchez.
Where are you looking? There's this bitOriginally Posted by Penguin
Q10: Is every DOGSO offence in the penalty now only a caution (YC)?
NO – the Law has only changed for those DOGSO offences in the penalty area where the offender makes an attempt to play the ball or challenge an opponent for the ball. The sending-off (RC) remains for: handball holding, pulling and pushing (as these offences are not an attempt to play the ball) making no attempt to play the ball e.g. a deliberate trip an offence when there was no chance/possibility of the ball being played
But this is in a section about Denial of a Goal Scoring Opportunity, which this clearly wasn't as it was in their half.
Iwobi is young and the defensive part of his game will take time to develop
The fact is we are having to rely far too much on wingers/attacking players on the left hand side to muck in defensively because Monreal is so slow and ultimately gets beaten for pace or fails to stop crosses far more often than Bellerin on the other side.
That's the modern game. I can't think of a wide forward player - apart from Ronnie - that is given the freedom not to get back and help cover his corresponding defender. Bellerin is a freak with his pace but still, when we had Ramsey on the right in front of him, we were very solid. Because Rambo gets back. Same with Theo now finally putting in the work and making more tackles already this season that he did in the whole of last season.
Wenger still has to have a word with him and not just sit and hope he develops defensive awareness. Look at the curious case of Theo Walcott. After years of playing on the wing, why did it take Wenger publicly saying he needs to defend better before he started putting in a shift?
As Kano said, it's the modern game and wingers have to defend. Not sure if that revelation just hit Wenger and instead of telling a player to adapt his game, he'll just swap a player for a more defensive minded winger if he thinks we'll be exposed on the wing. I don't want to see that happen with Iwobi. He needs to have an all round good game and not end up like Theo, Ramsey and Cesc. Wenger neglected certain areas of the players I mentioned and allowed them to focus purely on their strengths instead of developing their weak areas.
You seem to indicate that i am saying that Iwobi should be left alone to develop defensive skills on his own, what i'm saying is that players at his age whether they are wide players or full backs take time to mature to the point where they are more defensively disciplined.....of course words need to be had with him and of course he needs to do more defensively....but it doesn't happen overnight.
But again I think this is all rather besides the point, the point is whoever we play in that position...Monreal is a liability to us...even when we had Sanchez wide left he would get beaten all too much and most of the goals we have conceded either from set pieces or balls into the box comes down our left hand side.
Whatever Iwobi did or didn't do on Saturday, the second goal was Monreal's fault....he was far too passive and i think unlike Iwobi he hasn't got scope to improve.
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Why the replay for dives but not for trips? You don't trust the ref not to be conned for the former but his judgement is sufficient for the latter? There are going to be many "blatant trips" on players like Costa. He'll know exactly how to milk this rule, if it really is a rule and hasn't just been made up on Saturday. He'll go past a player and deliberately go over his leg, then roll around the place screaming. Unless the ref is right on the spot what's he going to do? For home games the crowd will decide most of the time. Fifty thousand howling, a cheating scumbag rolling around on the deck. Costa already does all this shit, he doesn't need further favours from the authorities.
I don't disagree with the idea that blatant foul play of any kind should be harshly punished. But leaving this to incompetent and corrupt refs is a recipe for disaster and also cheating. I have no problem at all with it if they give the 4th official instant replay facilities and then show the result on the big screen. But that has been resisted by the authorities for years under some lame excuse about the game being delayed or smaller clubs not being able to afford the technology. Bullshit excuses for not bringing the top flight of the game into the 21st century. And I wonder why that is?
As things stand with this new rule the likes of Costa are laughing themselves silly and players like himself and Robben will soon have new arts perfected to take advantage of this gift.
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You're probably in the minority on that. Monreal was our most consistent player last season. Or at least one of them and it's why he's finally earned a call up for Spain. He's not a problem.
Well spotted and if this is the case then Moss needs to be sacked.
Mind you, if it's not the case then Moss needs to be sacked.
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Before I read any of that, was a replay needed for that Xhaka challenge? Was it not clear and obvious that he was trying to trip the player and not play the ball?
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