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Thread: CL: Ludogorets v Arsenal, Tuesday 1st November, 7.45pm, BTS3

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    Play the full team and keep the momentum going. This is precisely the type of game where we've fucked around in the past and lost momentum, lost points and ended up letting a rival pip us to the top spot. Get the job done and go into the PSG game leaving them, rather than us, a mountain to climb. No more glorious failures. Hammer every nail until qualification in the top spot is guaranteed.

    That said, Wenger will most likely fuck around.
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    on the other hand, i think too often we get injuries by playing the same players week in week out, no sense in having a squad of players if we don't use them. Cazorla is injured because we have been playing him far too often.

    Other players end up being out of form when they come into the team because they are underplayed. I'm no fan of either Giroud or Ramsey.....especially not Ramsey but even I think they are useful squad members and actually i think they need to play their way into full form after being injured.

    The side i have suggested we should play, retains all the available first team players not in the starting XI on the bench so the likes of Sanchez and Ozil can come on if they needed.

    And fact remains if we can't beat a Bulgarian team without those two, than our hopes of winning anything significant this season is little more than a pipe dream anyway.

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    This isn't a banker game by any stretch. We've been here before. If we're worried about mileage clocked by key players then send them out and get the job done early. Then bench them. The other way around is way too risky for us. We send on the second stringers and they tip tap it around and create zero chances. Then the first stringers have to chase a game in which the opposition has already gained confidence and have something to hang onto. Much harder doing it that way around. Instead show the opposition the team that hammered them last time, defeat them in the tunnel before the game kicks off like we used to. The last time conservatism worked for Wenger was 2006, which also marked the start of the downward spiral in our football. Now there are flickers of effective football being seen on a fairly regular basis, don't stifle it again. We should be approaching the game against the spuds expecting to win, not shitting it that players might get injured. The mentality is all wrong.
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    Perhaps but the fact remains that we do have constant injuries because Wenger either overplays players or keeps faith with injury prone players.

    And I repeat if we don't have the guile to beat this side even without our best players than its a nonsense to think we should be competing anyway.

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    PSG beat them 3-1 after going a goal down, with a strong team out, so complete second string side is too risky. Spuds have to be taken into consideration given the importance and amount of leg work that has to be put into that game.

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    And are PSG all that good?....this is a side that should have hammered us 4 or 5 nil (that's how terrible we were) and yet couldn't finish us off

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    As good as or if not better than us, they deserved to beat us at their place and have outperformed us in the CL for a while now. One strikers misfiring game doesn't summarise their entire team. Given the other 9 were able to contribute to creating those chances, I'd say they are a good side. I wouldn't see any team in Europe taking them lightly.

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    my point is they have thrown loads of money into that side and yet have actually consistently underperformed in Europe, so actually there's not much to read into them going behind against ludogorets with their strongest team.

    I very much doubt Wenger will rest Sanchez or Ozil, but i maintain that if we feel we need either of them to beat this lot than we might as well give up now.

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    I see both HCZ and NQ's perspective on this but I'd go with NQ's approach for this match. I agree that we should be able to beat this team with a weakened team but anything other than a win tonight will mean that we are more than likely going to be playing Bayern or Barca in the next round. I can see that demoralize the team ahead of meeting the scums down the road this weekend. These are professional players and if we can get the job done easily, take off the big players and give game time to the kids.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    We're already rotating. With Elneny, Coquelin, Ox and Gibbs coming back into the squad, a long with Bif and Ramsey making sub appearances, we're warming up some of the bench players and getting them up to speed. As some of our players to start to cool down and look off the pace, we can swap them out without causing too much of a disruption. No point in making massive changes for this game because it disrupts the momentum and it's unlikely we'll ever play that combination of players. We just need to mix it up.

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