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Have to say, as poor as we were.....even if it was Wenger managing them and Emery managing us. They are for me a better side than us.
Although on the other hand despite the immense individual talent, I think Emery has them playing like a team. If Cavani actually gains any confidence in front of goal I think they would be challengers for the entire competition.
Veratti and Moura are exceptional players
Unlike Rooney, Cavani makes runs and actually looks dangerous
I've said for a while even looking beyond team selection (atrocious) and tactics (it took us 30 minutes for it to occur to us to close them down high up the pitch). There is a confidence fundamentally lacking, even when we did press them look at PSG and how good they are at trapping balls, first time passes and finding a team mate under pressure. We panic in these situations, because we have an aging has been who doesn't seem to want to take the time to make the players function as a unit. Not only that but we don't have a squad of big personalities, Sanchez, Koscielny and maybe Cech.....when that's the case you look to the bench for inspiration and character and they see a sagging beuracrat type in a oversized duffel coat.
It appears the only reason why we are in the CL is to keep the Spuds miserable. As crap as we always are they invariably are shittier.
In reality We could never win it in another 20 attempts with Inspector Clouseau in charge. Our 2 opportunities were in 2004 and 2006, we screwed it up both times and have only been worse since.
Last edited by Globalgunner; 24-11-2016 at 07:22 AM.
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Shocking stats of the match. This comes courtesy of @YankeeGunner via Twitter. Had to check this for myself on StatZone.
Ozil played only 2 passes to Giroud all game. Sanchez only 2 passes to Biff. Gibbs and Ospina found Bif the most with 4 passes each.
Our central midfield pair of Rambo and Coq passed Ozil the ball 8 times all game. Ozil received 3 passes from Rambo and 5 from Coquelin. Last match, Elneny found Ozil 15 times on his own.
Iwobi managed to pass the ball to Ozil 13 times and Ozil was able to pass to Sanchez 12 times. 9 for Ramsey.
Ramsey's top 5 players he passed to.
Mustafi - 12
Kos - 8
Coquelin - 8
Sanchez - 7
Jenks - 7
Backwards central! I suppose Sanchez was only in the mix because he comes hunting for the ball when frustrated.
We have to eliminate the weak links. Giroud and Rambo are dysfunctional.
The only team on that list that I think we could knock out over 2 legs is Benfica, Monaco is a 50/50, the rest would knock us out IMO.
It doesn't matter anyway because we're nowhere near good enough to progress far in this tournament.
Last edited by selassie; 24-11-2016 at 09:11 AM.
Whilst I agree, it should be noted that we were just as bad if not worse in Paris when neither of these started
The passing stats are totally unsurprising to me, we looked totally unable to deal with PSG pressing where as conversely PSG midfielders are confident, can trap a ball well and good at one touch passing.
The line up was atrocious, but I'm not entirely confident a different line up would have yielded a better result/performance. PSG play a pressing game and function well as a unit, they retain their shape well....the kind of things Emery is obviously instilling on the training ground.
He's ultimately exactly the kind of manager we should have
That's why you definitely don't play a slow, plodding tempo and stand off them. The precise tactics Wenger settled on. Hard to imagine a guy with so much experience in this tournament is clueless, but he seems to be. He's gripped by fear and will always take the safest option until that decision forces him into a corner, then he over-reacts in the most ridiculous manner. We've seen him shutting down games where we've easily had the upper hand. Last night we saw him throw caution to the wind as he watched his predictably hopeless selection get outplayed all over the pitch. Wenger takes all the plaudits when the plane is on autopilot and cruising at most efficient fuel consumption. But when the autopilot is disengaged he either cuts the engines and plummets or starts careening around the skies wildly pulling on every control he can find. He's an idiot, a tired old has-been that had many chances to get out on top before he became a laughing stock. Or, he's a genius, having found a way to milk a club for two decades when anyone else would have long been shown the door. Can't figure which. I suppose it has to be the latter because could a guy blag it for 20 years without being rumbled? Or does he just give the media a bung to keep the myth rolling?
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It should also be noted, we'd be 2 points worse off in this group and 6 behind PSG if Cavani wasn't allergic to goals. This is a bit like our second place finish in the league last year. The final position bears no resemblance to the performances that took us there and we're damn lucky we didn't have another competent team in the group.
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I'm not entirely convinced it's intentional, i don't think these players have the confidence and I'm not entirely convinced the ability to pass the ball under pressure. The tactics were wrong that's for sure, i can only think that standing off PSG was because we were frightened of being cut apart by them on the counter attack which we routinely were when we showed more aggressive intent.
Ramsey makes backward passes because he's clearly not confident in driving forward or finding someone with a forward pass, therefore he takes the easy option. Even Wenger was getting frustrated on the bench at some of the decision making being made from passes, which of course ultimately he is responsible for. We haven't beaten Spurs for ages for similar reasons we simply cannot deal with being closed down on the ball and i think that's as much about character and ability as it is tactics.
Would a better manager bring more confidence from this group of players?.......quite possibly but it's by no means a certainty. But of course there is only one way of knowing that.
What i would definitely take from last night, is that there was a performance on the pitch of confidence and control that i want to see from Arsenal, unfortunately it came from our opponents. Have to say love the way PSG play, purposeful attacking play....they don't give up possession easily, wonderful one touch passing combined with driving forward when required.....they should be the template for Arsenal.
Last edited by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie; 24-11-2016 at 10:37 AM.
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