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Thread: Champions League Last 16 Draw 12/12, 11am GMT.

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    I'm sure PSG and Barca have been drawn together a shit load of times too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters to Santa View Post
    Was it a fix 2 years ago when we got Monaco?
    Are you suggesting there's a UEFA-wide scheme to stop Arsenal progressing in this competition? I don't think Wenger needs loads of help in that regard.
    When you have seen with your own eyes the widespread corruption in football, it's not really a leap is it??

    This isn't about Arsenal. It's not set up to stop Arsenal, per say. It's fixed so greedy corrupt people can get there hands on lots of lovely cash.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    It feels like a fix because we know we have an inability to get past these sides when it really matters.

    We have been drawn against Bayern in knock-out competition three times before and the nearest we have come to getting past them is the away goal aggregate defeat

    Played them 10 times in European competition

    Won 3 Drawn 2 Lost 5 times

    Goals For: 11
    Goals Against: 17

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    It feels like a fix because we know we have an inability to get past these sides when it really matters.

    We have been drawn against Bayern in knock-out competition three times before and the nearest we have come to getting past them is the away goal aggregate defeat

    Played them 10 times in European competition

    Won 3 Drawn 2 Lost 5 times

    Goals For: 11
    Goals Against: 17
    Apart from that 5-1 loss last season I don't think the games have been that one sided, esp at our place. We usually do well at home and fuck up away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFC Leveller View Post
    Apart from that 5-1 loss last season I don't think the games have been that one sided, esp at our place. We usually do well at home and fuck up away.
    They may not have been but ultimately when it comes down to it, they have that bit more than us. They have always comfortably got past us when they need to, the 3-3 away goal defeat was an outlier and really after we scored to make it 2-0 Bayern didn't look under threat of not going through, it was more that they didn't know how to manage the game after winning 3-1 at the Emirates (where the scoreline belied actually how one sided it was).

    They are a better side than us to begin with, and they have more character in the side than we do.

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    We've experienced beating Bayern home and away. We just need to do it over one tie. We can pull this off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    They may not have been but ultimately when it comes down to it, they have that bit more than us. They have always comfortably got past us when they need to, the 3-3 away goal defeat was an outlier and really after we scored to make it 2-0 Bayern didn't look under threat of not going through, it was more that they didn't know how to manage the game after winning 3-1 at the Emirates (where the scoreline belied actually how one sided it was).

    They are a better side than us to begin with, and they have more character in the side than we do.
    I agree that they are a better side and have more experience then us but I can't help but feel that individual mistakes have also been a factor in our losses. If we can keep it tight over there and not make silly mistakes then the return leg will be set for us.

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    We'll probably get knocked out but hey ho, you have to face these kind of teams at some point if you have any designs of going far.

    Lets hope the 2nd leg at home can swing it in our favour this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoeLDG View Post
    When you have seen with your own eyes the widespread corruption in football, it's not really a leap is it??

    This isn't about Arsenal. It's not set up to stop Arsenal, per say. It's fixed so greedy corrupt people can get there hands on lots of lovely cash.
    I'm sure there's corruption going on but people only mention it being a fix on here when we get a difficult draw.
    I'm not sure how Arsenal drawing Bayern instead of an easier side serves the purposes of those who are fixing the draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    It feels like a fix because we know we have an inability to get past these sides when it really matters.

    We have been drawn against Bayern in knock-out competition three times before and the nearest we have come to getting past them is the away goal aggregate defeat

    Played them 10 times in European competition

    Won 3 Drawn 2 Lost 5 times

    Goals For: 11
    Goals Against: 17
    So you think it's anti-Arsenal?

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