Match reaction: Manchester City 2-1 Arsenal

[Power n Glory]

Coq is about as limited as they come. Without Cazorla's footwork and passing to cover for his limitations, he is shown up to be nothing more than a workhorse. Speaking of Santi, boy do we miss him. Last season he got injured at the same time of year and our form nosedived. History is repeating itself.

Xhaka needs to find his feet quickly. We need him.

He is limited but people we have bought in to pass and control the midfield aren't helping at all. Xhaka in particular. Ozil also because he should be dropping back to look for the ball. Iwobi also was played to help with possession. Wenger needs to rethink his selection. Coquelin made most of the tackles but Xhaka made 1 of 4. We lose Coq from the equation and we'd probably not won the ball back at all.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I find it amusing and pointless that anyone is discussing what players performed and what players didn't perform when we know there was only one reason we lost, the same reason we always lose when it gets tough or the pressure is on.

Doesn't matter what players play, it will always be the same.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

He is limited but people we have bought in to pass and control the midfield aren't helping at all. Xhaka in particular. Ozil also because he should be dropping back to look for the ball. Iwobi also was played to help with possession. Wenger needs to rethink his selection. Coquelin made most of the tackles but Xhaka made 1 of 4. We lose Coq from the equation and we'd probably not won the ball back at all.

It's a vicious cycle because we have seen playing Coquelin and Elneny leads to zero creativity. I think we can set up any system we like with whatever players we like and there is one constant holding us back.

[Power n Glory]

It's a vicious cycle because we have seen playing Coquelin and Elneny leads to zero creativity. I think we can set up any system we like with whatever players we like and there is one constant holding us back.

I'm going off the pre season. Not much to go on because of the nature of the game, but in the first half we were dominated by City in that game and it's only when Elneny came on that we got a foothold and won.

It does matter what players play. We didn't lose to City last season and we beat them at their ground the year before last.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I'm going off the pre season. Not much to go on because of the nature of the game, but in the first half we were dominated by City in that game and it's only when Elneny came on that we got a foothold and won.

It does matter what players play. We didn't lose to City last season and we beat them at their ground the year before last.

Difference between pre season friendly and actual game (we beat city in a pre season friendly in 2013 and lost 6-3 at their ground that season), and difference between beating a side managed by Manuel Pellegrini who is another Wenger and beating one managed by Pep Guardiola.

The players you pick should be important, but with this manager they aren't.....because even if he gets the right players in the right positions he gets the tactics so totally wrong.

It's a shame Cazorla is injured, but with Coquelin and Elneny there would have been a problem breaking just like there was today.

[Munchies]

[Munchies]

[Power n Glory]

Difference between pre season friendly and actual game (we beat city in a pre season friendly in 2013 and lost 6-3 at their ground that season), and difference between beating a side managed by Manuel Pellegrini who is another Wenger and beating one managed by Pep Guardiola.

The players you pick should be important, but with this manager they aren't.....because even if he gets the right players in the right positions he gets the tactics so totally wrong.

It's a shame Cazorla is injured, but with Coquelin and Elneny there would have been a problem breaking just like there was today.

We have beaten Pep teams before and it's not as if they played well against us. We'd have been best set up to counter but it's not as if we couldn't counter. As the game unravelled, the conditions were perfect to play on the counter but the effort just wasn't there from the players. I don't know why but it's time to stop deflecting. We weren't even close to playing at our full potential and it's not because we weren't allowed to play our game because City were poor.

[Chippy]

Christmas is cancelled

Love this guy😂

http://youtu.be/JHNBttv0ceA

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

We have beaten Pep teams before and it's not as if they played well against us. We'd have been best set up to counter but it's not as if we couldn't counter. As the game unravelled, the conditions were perfect to play on the counter but the effort just wasn't there from the players. I don't know why but it's time to stop deflecting. We weren't even close to playing at our full potential and it's not because we weren't allowed to play our game because City were poor.

I'm not deflecting anything, I just think ultimately it's the manager to blame it's not absolving players of responsibility. He's proved once again he can't hack it. I still think DT is a semi literate oath but he was spot on identifying this game and Everton as the two games that would define whether we could win the title. And no we can't, the title is over now and that means the manager should be gone.