March Reaction V Bournemouth Away

[Power n Glory]

Great post/Everything youve written is spot on.

It's a good post from NQ and poses some good questions. We need self-motivators to compensate Wenger's laid back approach. I’ve gone round in circles with this one. I’ve often questioned why the manager isn’t embarrassed by his record and why he isn’t pushing for top quality in all areas at Arsenal. But you also have to ask the same of the players. We don’t have kids on the pitch anymore. We have experienced internationals that should know better.

It’s a great point about Alexis. We forget he went all the way to retaining his Copa America title with Chile during the summer, hardly no break, a fucked up foot and has still put in shift with great performances all whilst learning a new position. When told he was playing as striker, he went away and watched videos to learn the role!

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/english-prem...-videos-online

Look at that! A total self starter. No mention of working on the position in training with Wenger and the staff coaching him on how to adjust his game, he took it upon himself to learn the role. Now it’s a serous worry if none of the coaches are giving him pointers on how to play but it says a lot about the Alexis. We should be going all out to get him a new contract. I don’t want to hear players whining about needing a winter break when they don’t even work hard in training and get extra days off.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

It's hard to know how many players in the modern game come under the category of "self-motivator" although i think it's fair to say far more came under that category when we were winning titles under Wenger.

Wenger in his own words believes in treating players like adults capable of self-discipline and work ethic, the problem with that is two fold it seems abundantly clear that a lot of the players in our squad don't really deserve that kind of freedom and need to be raked over the coals if they aren't putting 100% in and also the lack of natural leaders in the team mean that players don't have anyone to look to like Tony Adams or Sol Campbell (Vieira even as captain used to instruct Campbell to shout at him if he was making mistakes or not giving him enough protection) to take them to one side and tell them where they are going wrong.

I often find myself asking why Wenger seems reluctant to go for those type of players now

I don't know if Alexis is a natural leader or not (is he captain for the national side?...I honestly wouldn't know) but yeah he's definitely a player who might have bad patches but there has rarely ever been occasion to say he's not putting maximum effort into a game.

[Power n Glory]

I often find myself asking why Wenger seems reluctant to go for those type of players now

I have a hunch. Strong characters are hard to manage and Wenger hates confrontation. We've never seen a huge mutiny on our hands at Arsenal and if he lost the team in a similar way to what we've seen at Chelsea, Utd, Madrid, City...etc....the Board would be forced to sack him.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I have a hunch. Strong characters are hard to manage and Wenger hates confrontation. We've never seen a huge mutiny on our hands at Arsenal and if he lost the team in a similar way to what we've seen at Chelsea, Utd, Madrid, City...etc....the Board would be forced to sack him.

I tend to agree, whilst I don't think Wenger is a tyrant. As have said previously he gets very defensive when challenged and calls it disrespectful. We know Gallas was very strong minded and was considered a disruptive influence in the dressing room, though Gallas was less of a leader and more of a cunt so it could be just as much that he is afraid that it will cause disharmony.
Where as a bunch of paper tigers will just content themselves with selfies

[selassie]

Me too, but I wouldn't really want Europa League though.

I would take a year out of Europe if it meant a change of manager and a decent crack at the league.

Me too.

I think we are destined to lose one if not both of Sanchez and Ozil regardless of whether we get top 4 or not. A season out of Europe rebuilding the team could well be a good thing.

[Niall_Quinn]

Finally, Arsenal gets tough with these pampered players!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ered-side.html

[GP]

You realise that isn't Arsenal's plane, right?

It's just one in the emirates fleet. They've got one with PSG players, one with Madrid players...

It's an A380. You can't even land those at small airports.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Or rivers

[Power n Glory]

It looks nice.

[Marc Overmars]

Flew with Emirates recently. Sensational airline.