Ozil - Do we need him?

[selassie]

Arseblog straight in there with his "calm and considered" opinion. We should obviously get Wenger to sign to hold onto our best players.....so we can still underachieve.

Leicester proved that it's not all about star players. It comes from the manager first and foremost, and Wenger's chance came and went a long time ago.

What is it with this bloke? I know he wants us to do well, and I understand his worry about losing out best players. But he needs to stop being a big girls blouse and accept that change tales time, and the whole club needs to start again. If that means struggling for a while, so be it.

That's how I feel.

If Ozil's future is tied to Wenger and Wenger wants to go then Ozil can go with him. Sanchez too and anybody that cries about their future being tied to Wenger, we don't need them, they need to be washed out with Wenger because we're going nowhere fast with Wenger in charge.

We have plenty of issues at this club...the board are very much part of it but let's start first with the football team, get rid of the underachieving manager and create a "pragmatic" culture, a culture where the new manager will do everything in his power to ensure we have the best possible chance of winning..."WINNING IS EVERYTHING".

[Goonermerree]

I don't see why the manager's future should influence Ozil's decision that much. If he leaves he'll have to play under a new manager, he's just laying out his excuses. Maybe Wenger gives him an easy ride and he doesn't want to lose that.

[selassie]

I don't see why the manager's future should influence Ozil's decision that much. If he leaves he'll have to play under a new manager, he's just laying out his excuses. Maybe Wenger gives him an easy ride and he doesn't want to lose that.

Neither do I, I suspect it's another excuse to give Ozil breathing space...it remains to be seen whether the masses swallow it up because it sounds like hogwash to me.

I do think there is an element of truth in Wenger giving him an easy ride though, he's a good player but would be under immense pressure at any of our rivals to deliver top class performances on a weekly basis.

[AFC Leveller]

That's where we'll see the biggest difference. It's the most important signing we'll make.

The thing that i hate most about the current regime is the inevitable failure around February/March. Going into big away games at OT, Chelsea etc knowing we have no chance and we will freeze, having fear before games instead of excitement.

A new manager (not just any new manager, someone young and in the Klopp/Pochetinho mould) would be a huge signing and a massive step in the right direction.

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't see why the manager's future should influence Ozil's decision that much. If he leaves he'll have to play under a new manager, he's just laying out his excuses. Maybe Wenger gives him an easy ride and he doesn't want to lose that.

Very much so. He's telling us that like Wenger, he'll decide whether to go or stay at the end of the season. Gives more clubs time to circle. Behind every player there's an agent.

[Niall_Quinn]

Neither do I, I suspect it's another excuse to give Ozil breathing space...it remains to be seen whether the masses swallow it up because it sounds like hogwash to me.

I do think there is an element of truth in Wenger giving him an easy ride though, he's a good player but would be under immense pressure at any of our rivals to deliver top class performances on a weekly basis.

Two weeks in bed. Must have been ebola or something like that. Poor guy.

Alexis would be charging up the pitch with his ankle cuffed to the sawn-off bed post.

[selassie]

Two weeks in bed. Must have been ebola or something like that. Poor guy.

Alexis would be charging up the pitch with his ankle cuffed to the sawn-off bed post.

The sad thing is that this is actually not far from the truth. Alexis played with a minor Hamstring injury for Chile fairly recently.

[Power n Glory]

Two weeks in bed. Must have been ebola or something like that. Poor guy.

Alexis would be charging up the pitch with his ankle cuffed to the sawn-off bed post.

You say this yet have trouble understanding why I'm not letting players off the hook for poor performances.

It's the same argument I have the Wenger when it comes to the Board. Regardless of the targets are set low, I don't understand why these players haven't set a certain standard for themselves when they go out there. It's not just the manager letting us down out there.

[Niall_Quinn]

You say this yet have trouble understanding why I'm not letting players off the hook for poor performances.

It's the same argument I have the Wenger when it comes to the Board. Regardless of the targets are set low, I don't understand why these players haven't set a certain standard for themselves when they go out there. It's not just the manager letting us down out there.

We weren't arguing about letting the players off the hook for poor performances FFS. We were arguing about the shitty style we play and the useless tactics that every person on the planet figure out 10 years ago.

If Ozil is being a lazy bastard I'll say so. It's not a case of having to be 100% consistent in applause or criticism. These things depend on events and circumstances. You want to criticise him all the time though.

[AFC Leveller]

Ozil tells Kicker: “I would love to wear the 10 shirt, I always wanted that, the club knew from the beginning. When I came to Arsenal in 2013, Jack Wilshere already had the 10. The club said I would get the 10 when it was free. She has been free since Wilshere’s departure in the summer – I have not been able to do it yet.”

He wants the shirt as well.