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    Quote Originally Posted by Goonermerree View Post
    What worries me most is the payers saying that they were surprised at Preston's commitment. They're not a non-league side, they are professional footballers in the Championship and at home in a cup tie against Premier League opposition, why wouldn't they be committed? We've seen over the last decade or so our team take the opposition for granted and been burned. Treat every game with the same respect and commitment ourselves and we might win more of these matches and more easily.
    Doesn't surprise me at all. Wenger's definition of commitment: 1) Squeezing out every last pay day of a contract. 2) What the doctors tell him must happen when they come to visit.

    That the players can say this is just another indicator of how out of touch everyone at the club is in terms of doing what it takes to compete at the very top. You could translate this as them wondering why Preston didn't take the game as lightly as we did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goonermerree View Post
    What worries me most is the payers saying that they were surprised at Preston's commitment. They're not a non-league side, they are professional footballers in the Championship and at home in a cup tie against Premier League opposition, why wouldn't they be committed? We've seen over the last decade or so our team take the opposition for granted and been burned. Treat every game with the same respect and commitment ourselves and we might win more of these matches and more easily.
    Yep it's alarming and a major concern. Even more so hearing Ramsey and Giroud say it live on TV after the game, it's like WTF?!!! What did they expect?!!!

    I've no idea what was even said before the game to the players or amongst the players? In fact...I question whether we did any research on PNE before the game...I'm being deadly serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Yep it's alarming and a major concern. Even more so hearing Ramsey and Giroud say it live on TV after the game, it's like WTF?!!! What did they expect?!!!

    I've no idea what was even said before the game to the players or amongst the players? In fact...I question whether we did any research on PNE before the game...I'm being deadly serious.
    Pre-game in the cup is usually the same as any other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cripps View Post
    Pre-game in the cup is usually the same as any other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cripps View Post
    I guess your point must be so advanced and high brow that nobody else can comprehend it. And I guess it must be so elevated it negates the need to make a defence of any points raised against it. For example, "Why can't Xhaka pass any more?" Answer - We just bought him. Heavy.
    Something is really wrong with you today. I've already said it could be down to bad form or fatigue but you're not paying attention and going from one rant to another. Maybe he's not that good in the first place and can't pass well under pressure. All the highlight reel Youtube clips going around during the summer were all of him with loads of space to make the pass.


    This is what I was referring to.

    Who are the key culprits with these heavy touches and poor passes? Why hasn't the manager got rid of them if they are constantly leading the team to 'lack little bit sharpness' and not move the ball quickly enough? Why does he keep playing them? Why does he buy them in the first place? Like a mechanic who puts all the wrong parts in an engine so it won't drive the car. Fucking parts! Useless. Let's order more of them and see if that fixes the problem.
    The key culprits are major signings like Xhaka. Ozil falls into that equation with the way he's played and not turned up recently. Cech also with the way he's been beaten on the near post. Kos included for letting his head drop when we concede. He has no leadership skills. Mustafi, Monreal.... There are plenty that make mistakes that they shouldn't make and it's down to the mentality more than ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Something is really wrong with you today. I've already said it could be down to bad form or fatigue but you're not paying attention and going from one rant to another. Maybe he's not that good in the first place and can't pass well under pressure. All the highlight reel Youtube clips going around during the summer were all of him with loads of space to make the pass.


    This is what I was referring to.



    The key culprits are major signings like Xhaka. Ozil falls into that equation with the way he's played and not turned up recently. Cech also with the way he's been beaten on the near post. Kos included for letting his head drop when we concede. He has no leadership skills. Mustafi, Monreal.... There are plenty that make mistakes that they shouldn't make and it's down to the mentality more than ability.
    We already agree on this. But what we can't seem to get around to is discussing in any detail why Wenger allows them to tap the ball around the midfield 900 times before venturing into the business end of the pitch (let's just assume he's not 100% responsible for it, even though he is). Why isn't he off the bench when they are fucking around like that? We both know the only time he gets off the bench waving his arms in fury is if one of them loses precious possession or musters up the nerve to shoot at goal. Oh, and when he needs to do his zip up. He lacks a little bit energy himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cripps View Post
    We already agree on this. But what we can't seem to get around to is discussing in any detail why Wenger allows them to tap the ball around the midfield 900 times before venturing into the business end of the pitch (let's just assume he's not 100% responsible for it, even though he is). Why isn't he off the bench when they are fucking around like that? We both know the only time he gets off the bench waving his arms in fury is if one of them loses precious possession or musters up the nerve to shoot at goal. Oh, and when he needs to do his zip up. He lacks a little bit energy himself.
    We've discussed that 1000 times already. Maybe not today or even this season but we've discussed it and agreed on this point already. Do you need any further clarification on my position on this guy? We never used to agree on him being the problem but we do now. I’ve always said he’s the key problem. It’s not the money, stadium or the Board. He has a low standard for himself and the team from what it appears. We know he’s incapable of motivating the players or adding any extra input. That’s why project youth was such a disaster compared to the Highbury years. But these players we’ve bought should hold a much higher standard for themselves considering how much we’ve paid for them and the rep they came with. I’m not letting them off the hook just because they have an idiot in charge. It’s similar to the feeling I had with Chelsea when they were close to relegation. Even if Jose is an absolute prick, to allow the standard of football to sink that low is an embarrassment to the club.

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    Poor tactical planning

    Poor positional planning

    Poor performances

    I can't judge any player until Wenger is gone.

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