Match Reaction vs Swansea City (away).

[selassie]

Not interested at all in the top four race, it's the title or don't care. The title is Chelseas' so don't care

Herb...I hear you...and I'm of the same mindset to a degree.....

If dropping out of top four meant a fresh change then I'm all for it but I also want us to keep our best players which IMO does to an extent hinge on us credibly challenging for the title or at the very least securing a top four finish.

For what it is worth, I don't think we have what it takes to properly challenge for the title, this team doesn't have the mentality. Even if Chelsea collapse I don't expect us to take the initiative....it will be one of the other teams.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Herb...I hear you...and I'm of the same mindset to a degree.....

If dropping out of top four meant a fresh change then I'm all for it but I also want us to keep our best players which IMO does to an extent hinge on us credibly challenging for the title or at the very least securing a top four finish.

For what it is worth, I don't think we have what it takes to properly challenge for the title, this team doesn't have the mentality. Even if Chelsea collapse I don't expect us to take the initiative....it will be one of the other teams.

The point of having these type of players is that they can help you win titles. If it's to be believed that Sanchez and Ozil's futures are tied to Wenger's future and they want assurances of him staying before signing.....wouldn't it be better to just let them go. No one is irreplaceable.

Our next away game in the PL is at Stamford Bridge, no-one apart from fans like Ty actually believe we have a chance of winning there so then what are these players for?

[selassie]

The point of having these type of players is that they can help you win titles. If it's to be believed that Sanchez and Ozil's futures are tied to Wenger's future and they want assurances of him staying before signing.....wouldn't it be better to just let them go. No one is irreplaceable.

Our next away game in the PL is at Stamford Bridge, no-one apart from fans like Ty actually believe we have a chance of winning there so then what are these players for?

If and it's a big IF they are tied to Wenger's future then they can go and we should rebuild properly with a new man in charge.

The point I was trying to make and the ideal scenario would be for us to finish top 4, keep hold of Ozil and Sanchez and Wenger leave. Everybody would be happy then

Yeah I hear you on the next away game and having these two, the issue isn't them but Wenger.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

If and it's a big IF they are tied to Wenger's future then they can go and we should rebuild properly with a new man in charge.

The point I was trying to make and the ideal scenario would be for us to finish top 4, keep hold of Ozil and Sanchez and Wenger leave. Everybody would be happy then

Yeah I hear you on the next away game and having these two, the issue isn't them but Wenger.

I just don't see how Wenger will go unless we finish outside the top four, if the table looked in May like it looks today he will think in his own mind we were in contention all the way because 2nd and 3rd are only one point above us.

[selassie]

I just don't see how Wenger will go unless we finish outside the top four, if the table looked in May like it looks today he will think in his own mind we were in contention all the way because 2nd and 3rd are only one point above us.

I don't think he'll go either, in fact I don't think he'll go even if we drop out of top 4 but that is more to do with Wenger not wanting to go and the board being happy with him meeting their requirements, a season out of CL won't be enough for them to drop him.

So far this season is not that dissimilar to last season in as much as we've never really truly challenged for the title...if it finishes as it did last season I have no idea how Wenger can justify that he is moving the team forward, his words were that he will only extend his contract if he believes he is moving the team forward.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I don't think he'll go either, in fact I don't think he'll go even if we drop out of top 4 but that is more to do with Wenger not wanting to go and the board being happy with him meeting their requirements, a season out of CL won't be enough for them to drop him.

So far this season is not that dissimilar to last season in as much as we've never really truly challenged for the title...if it finishes as it did last season I have no idea how Wenger can justify that he is moving the team forward, his words were that he will only extend his contract if he believes he is moving the team forward.

If we drop out of the top four he walks without doubt, especially with the money he's spent.

[selassie]

If we drop out of the top four he walks without doubt, especially with the money he's spent.

It will be interesting to see what happens if we do. To be honest he's under immense pressure at the moment, it's gone beyond him securing a top 4 place too, a lot of fans want to see REAL progress, they want to see this team battling for the title NOW.