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    http://le-grove.co.uk/2011/10/11/sta...-more-than-us/

    Good read on Le Grove today about shit behind the scenes.

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    Post 2006 Wenger is actually a really poor manager, who has made so many mistakes that at any other club he would have been fired. However, post 2006 Wenger has also placed much greater importance on our so called "self sustaining" model and seems to think that finishing in the top 4 is success, given that the revenues we gain from a place in the UCL contributes to the profitability of the club and ensures that share prices remain high. However, Wenger as a football manager has been seriously found wanting, and the more he's been questioned by the fans, the more he's been behaving like a petulant teenager, criticising shareholders who bemoan our poor end-of-season collapses over the last few seasons and constantly trying to blame external forces (like City's "financial doping", injuries etc) for our failings in the last five years, rather than looking closer to home.

    The board are completely complicit as well, because they're only motivated by financial considerations, and so Wenger is the perfect manager to have for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    Please tell me you are not this stupid.
    Yes, I am very stupid to think the head of a department needs to be fired rather than the whole board because only that department failed.

    Since no intelligent point was made to my original post, I'll take excerpts from the post you made to PnG and reply

    Ultimate accountability rests with the Board. That they have presided over this mess is down to them. A change of Manager has been required for some time and it is down to them that this has not occurred.
    How does the board fire a man who gave the club 10 glorious years? Same man who literally designed the Emirates stadium and brought us a new training ground and youth policy that till a few years back was very productive.. The board gave Arsene time just like many fans did... bar a intelligent few (like Zimm and me ) who were calling for his head a couple of years back. The board IMO gave Arsene everything there was to become successful, they have openly backed him with transfer funds and unlimited support yet Arsene (a very intelligent man until a few years ago) just fucks with their trust and the fans support.
    Again, all you BH's will come back with the same old BS about transfer and how money is tight.. FFS, that money will not sort out our defense or the use of players out of position. Transfer funds will not teach the strikers to attack the box or the players to grow a winning mentality. That comes down from the manager.

    I do agree though that the board is making one criminal mistake now... and that is to let AW carry on. He should be fired right away. It doesnt matter that its the middle of the season or that he will be replaced by a cow, anything is better than AW atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeYank View Post
    I do agree though that the board is making one criminal mistake now... and that is to let AW carry on. He should be fired right away. It doesnt matter that its the middle of the season or that he will be replaced by a cow, anything is better than AW atm.
    Finally! At least we got there in the end.

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    The board won't fire Wenger as long as he keeps making money for the board. If we drop out of the top 4 this season, then potentially the top 10 the year after, and lose our best players in the next summer, then there may be financial repercussions to this (lose of sponsorship deals, less demand for tickets, etc) and it is then that the board will think about Wenger's position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeYank View Post
    Yes, I am very stupid to think the head of a department needs to be fired rather than the whole board because only that department failed.

    Since no intelligent point was made to my original post, I'll take excerpts from the post you made to PnG and reply



    How does the board fire a man who gave the club 10 glorious years? Same man who literally designed the Emirates stadium and brought us a new training ground and youth policy that till a few years back was very productive.. The board gave Arsene time just like many fans did... bar a intelligent few (like Zimm and me ) who were calling for his head a couple of years back. The board IMO gave Arsene everything there was to become successful, they have openly backed him with transfer funds and unlimited support yet Arsene (a very intelligent man until a few years ago) just fucks with their trust and the fans support.
    Again, all you BH's will come back with the same old BS about transfer and how money is tight.. FFS, that money will not sort out our defense or the use of players out of position. Transfer funds will not teach the strikers to attack the box or the players to grow a winning mentality. That comes down from the manager.

    I do agree though that the board is making one criminal mistake now... and that is to let AW carry on. He should be fired right away. It doesnt matter that its the middle of the season or that he will be replaced by a cow, anything is better than AW atm.
    Do the voices in your head sound like me?

    It's the politest explanation I can think of for that non-sensical rant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    Do the voices in your head sound like me?

    It's the politest explanation I can think of for that non-sensical rant.


    Umm ok..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeYank View Post


    Umm ok..
    Well, when replying to me, try and stick to what I stated rather than a general rant in response to shit you think you heard elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    Well, when replying to me, try and stick to what I stated rather than a general rant in response to shit you think you heard elsewhere.
    And that would be that the board is accountable for the footballing failure at AFC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeYank View Post
    And that would be that the board is accountable for the footballing failure at AFC?
    Who employs Wenger? If he's not doing his job (I'd argue up till the end of last season he was, as the board defined his objectives which IMO was more about CL qualification than trophies) and the board have sat there and continued to employ him then yes, they are accountable for that.

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