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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    A very underrated performer today. I see what were, in my view, average performances by Song and Jenkinson being praised but Kos made a lot of strong, quick interceptions. It's true that Sunderland offered little but Kos was cleaning up well to help us keep momentum.

    Agree with Szczesny - had a howler that went unpunished because Song covered well. He has his mad moments but I wouldn't say he has many more than other keepers out there. The job of the goalkeeper is to be decisive; very occasionally you'll get it wrong and will need help from your defence. In the last 3-4 seasons, our goalkeepers have cost us a lot more points than they've saved us. There's no doubt that by the end of the season, Szczesny will have saved us far more points than he will cost us.
    I thought Song was one our best players. Came on strong in the second half and kept the middle ticking when others disappeared or made silly errors that could have cost us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I thought Song was one our best players. Came on strong in the second half and kept the middle ticking when others disappeared or made silly errors that could have cost us.
    I thought he did his defensive bit well (although he was perhaps tiring in the second half and not covering quick enough) but far too many loose balls when he had it in good positions. Showed some drive though. Probably a bit better than average, in fairness. I guess his job wasn't helped by Arteta not really getting into the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Shout out to Song. He's better than Arteta. Ball distribution, dribbling, energy, positioning and making himself available for the pass (a sign of intelligence), he should be playing the distribution anchor man type role. The role Cesc used to play back in the old days where he was all over the pitch conducting play.

    Was also impressed with Rosicky ad well. Those two in the middle works. Throw Wilshere in and it looks even better. Arteta and Ramsey have no business playing in the first team. Passenegere that give away the ball cheaply and in dangerous areas. Arteta can't even turn on the ball if he's under pressure from a defender. Rosicky was turning his man all day and Song had the strength to hold them off and the feet to turn them. His technique is underrated.

    Bad performances from some but some hopeful ones as well.
    I agree with that assessment based on todays game. . . .Song just needs to cut out his mad moments. . . .for ecample his attempt at a head lock bear the end of the game, the ref could have quite easily blown for that and at worst Song would have received second yellow, stupid on a scale of the stamp on Barton especially considering the balance of the game. Not sure if his passing is of a constant quality to take a Cesc like mantle. . .

    which is why we need more from Areta, who probably needs more to happen in front of him, unfortunately still getting used to a system that no longer suits the team because it isnt technically gifted enough to play it.

    Rosicky now needs to put in more similar performamces before we get excited, no Ramsey was a bonus, he should go bsck yo the drawing board. . . .the CC squad awaits

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    Quote Originally Posted by notwist View Post
    Total pants, but a win is a win.
    Pretty much what they said about manu yesterday for their draw - they were mediocre but salvaged the point. Of course, if that had been the Arsenal doing the same as manu, the doom-sayers would be calling for Wenger's head as usual.

    There was some unlucky stuff though - RvP's chip that hit the post and all but went in. On another day, that was 2 up and cruising. With a run of reasonable luck and a few wins, I think the team can get their heads up and start performing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if Theo ever thinks to himself, 'fucking hell I need to get out of this team'
    I'd hope is was more like 'fucking hell, i'm lucky to be here. Must try harder'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coney View Post
    Pretty much what they said about manu yesterday for their draw - they were mediocre but salvaged the point. Of course, if that had been the Arsenal doing the same as manu, the doom-sayers would be calling for Wenger's head as usual.

    There was some unlucky stuff though - RvP's chip that hit the post and all but went in. On another day, that was 2 up and cruising. With a run of reasonable luck and a few wins, I think the team can get their heads up and start performing.
    Yes, a win 3 points and 2 points gained on a rival for fourth Liverpool. . .see what happens with Scum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over View Post
    I agree with that assessment based on todays game. . . .Song just needs to cut out his mad moments. . . .for ecample his attempt at a head lock bear the end of the game, the ref could have quite easily blown for that and at worst Song would have received second yellow, stupid on a scale of the stamp on Barton especially considering the balance of the game. Not sure if his passing is of a constant quality to take a Cesc like mantle. . .
    There was also a moment where Song pulled back one of their players on a break (just before our first sub, I think...maybe second) - Webb played advantage but I was convinced it was a clear yellow (which would've been his second). After that, he had the moment you're talking about. He was at best worth 1.5 yellows and at worst worth 3. Needs to be more careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over View Post
    I agree with that assessment based on todays game. . . .Song just needs to cut out his mad moments. . . .for ecample his attempt at a head lock bear the end of the game, the ref could have quite easily blown for that and at worst Song would have received second yellow, stupid on a scale of the stamp on Barton especially considering the balance of the game. Not sure if his passing is of a constant quality to take a Cesc like mantle. . .

    which is why we need more from Areta, who probably needs more to happen in front of him, unfortunately still getting used to a system that no longer suits the team because it isnt technically gifted enough to play it.

    Rosicky now needs to put in more similar performamces before we get excited, no Ramsey was a bonus, he should go bsck yo the drawing board. . . .the CC squad awaits
    I don't expect Song to play the killer balls, just be the player that looks to make himself available at all times and the link between attack and defence. Saw too many occasions where he's forwards and Arteta is just not even looking to make himself available for a pass from the defence which meant Merts and Kozza were having to try to make long passes or Rosicky was dropping deep to collect the ball. Arteta is out of his depth. Song shouldn't be so far towards up field. He's better at holding and making runs from deep if needed. He has no problem taking the ball from the defence and getting it forwards to attackers. He's more than a holding player he can easily play the old Vieira role. He had the lungs and can make the basic passes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    There was also a moment where Song pulled back one of their players on a break (just before our first sub, I think...maybe second) - Webb played advantage but I was convinced it was a clear yellow (which would've been his second). After that, he had the moment you're talking about. He was at best worth 1.5 yellows and at worst worth 3. Needs to be more careful.
    Same as Rio Ferdinand yesterday then, who should also have had a second yellow. Scraping wins, we are looking more like manu every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    There was also a moment where Song pulled back one of their players on a break (just before our first sub, I think...maybe second) - Webb played advantage but I was convinced it was a clear yellow (which would've been his second). After that, he had the moment you're talking about. He was at best worth 1.5 yellows and at worst worth 3. Needs to be more careful.
    Same with a couple of mackems though, Vaughan(?) and Brown should have gone. That's Song though, all heart, no brains. He's going to make a difference when he plays, one way or another. He was strong today, need more of that against the stoke scum next time.
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