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    Arsenal midfielder Henri Lansbury is using pal Jack Wilshere as a role model in his
    quest for a place in Fabio Capello’s England squad.


    Lansbury, 20, has a point to prove when he lines up for the Under-21s against Norway at Southampton.


    He said: ‘Jack has done what we all aim to do. He has taken his chance and gone out there and performed. Other lads at Arsenal look up to him and want to be doing
    the same. I have played many years with Jack. He has progressed and taken his chance.



    Ambition: Henri Lansbury (left) has returned to Arsenal following a loan spell at Norwich


    ‘He has always been small but he has been exceptional. Jack is a great player and will be missed at this level but we have to focus without him now. It’s a massive
    inspiration also that Mr Capello will be watching this match and all of us will go out to impress him.


    Lansbury also wouldn’t mind going back on loan to new Barclays Premier League side Norwich, where he spent last season, if he is not needed at Arsenal.


    He added: ‘I don’t know the situation yet. I will go back in preseason and go from there. I want to show Mr Wenger what I can do in this tournament first.’


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz1OPZOxBqQ
    Should be a squad member next season

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    I'd rather give Lansbury a chance than spunk millions on Parker. That said in an ideal world I'd let this lad go, forget about Parker and get a top clas DM.

    In any case Coquelin is much better.
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    Coquelin is better than who?

    Parker or Lansbury?

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    Better than lansbury and has the potential to be much better than Parker.
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    Surely Lansbury is not a DM, so I don't get the comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirjackofwilshere View Post
    I'd rather give Lansbury a chance than spunk millions on Parker. That said in an ideal world I'd let this lad go, forget about Parker and get a top clas DM.

    In any case Coquelin is much better.
    the strongest case IMO is for a midfielder that has experience and the ability to duke it out when the going gets tough and for that mentality to be displayed to such an extent that the team follows suit

    If Lansbury has that then I too, would give him the chance over the millions (less than 10) that would be needed to land Parker but I don't think that is the case. Lansbury would be best loaned out as Jack was to Bolton and for that matter why not bring back Coquelin and do the same. Would learn more back here although wasnt his deal part of our help thy sister club policy?

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    Coquelin Poised To Miss Pre-Season

    Francis Coquelin is poised to miss Arsenal’s pre-season preparations after being named in the French Under 20 squad for next months Under 20 World Cup in Colombia.
    Coquelin, who spent the whole of last season on loan with Ligue One outfit Lorient, was expected to use pre-season to force his way into Arsene Wenger’s first-team squad. However, he and fellow Lorient loanee Gilles Sunu have both been named in Francis Smerecki’s initial 30-man squad, and are all but certain to make the final cut.
    France’s involvement in the competition begins on July 30th, and will run to at least August 5th, when the group stages finish.
    Ignasi Miquel has already been included in the Spain squad for the competition, meaning he will also miss pre-season.
    http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2011/06/c...ss-pre-season/

    In answer to @ JapanShakingAllOver; Coquelin is a very combative midfielder...whilst not the tallest he doesn't shirk from the fight. That said his physical quality doesn't detract from his technical ability and poise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirjackofwilshere View Post
    http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2011/06/c...ss-pre-season/

    In answer to @ JapanShakingAllOver; Coquelin is a very combative midfielder...whilst not the tallest he doesn't shirk from the fight. That said his physical quality doesn't detract from his technical ability and poise.
    Coquelin is very similar to Flamini (or Las Diarra), not the biggest but very combative and athletics. 2-3 years from now, he would be perfect replacement for Song.
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    I am delighted to bring you an extensive interview with the number one source of Arsenal Youth news, Young Guns Blog. Many of the questions were supplied by people who follow me on Twitter. Thank you for that. Please take the time, after reading of course, to check out Young Guns excellent site and follow him on Twitter @YoungGunsBlog if you don’t already.

    1. Who was your stand-out young player of the 2010/11 season and why?

    “There are a handful of candidates, all for different reasons, but looking over a 12 month period, I’d say Ryo Miyaichi. He was a 17-year-old who had only played high school football when he came on trial last summer, and turned in two mixed performances during pre-season matches. A year later, he’s going straight into the first-team squad for training and is one of the most exciting prospects at the club. It’s been a stunning final few months of the campaign for him, and his positivity and style has earned him a lot of richly deserved plaudits.”

    2. Who was the biggest disappointment from the 2010/11 season and why?

    “It’s a little unfair to pick out one player in what has been a difficult season all round, but Wellington Silva sticks in my head. For me, he’s got more raw ability than Miyaichi, but his attitude to everything off the pitch is a massive issue. He only played twice for Levante, when he promised to do so much better. It’s always real shame when something like attitude gets in the way, especially when you can clearly see the talent he has.”

    3. Which players are ready to step up to the first team for the 11/12 season?

    “The Reserves and Under 18′s are in the middle of a transitional period at the moment, and most of the players within both squads are at least a year away from looking to kick on to that level. The main candidates are those who went on loan last year, including Kyle Bartley, Francis Coquelin and the aforementioned Miyaichi. The latter probably needs another spell somewhere, but Bartley and Coquelin have played on a regular basis and proved consistently they can cope with the demands of top level football. They both deserve a chance to prove themselves.”

    4. Which players will need a season out on loan to be ready for the 12/13 season?

    “That will be the majority of the Reserves. Players like James Shea, Ignasi Miquel, Conor Henderson and Oğuzhan Özyakup. They’ve all shown they’re comfortable at Reserve team level now, but are not able to force their way into the first team squad. A loan spell will help sharpen some of their blunter abilities (mostly physical ones) and give them the experience and confidence needed for a first team push.”

    5. Which players do you feel aren’t going to cut it at Arsenal?

    “It’s really too early to judge, because a lot of them are still very young. We’ll get a better idea next season, when the current Reserve team go on loan and we learn more about how they can cope with the added pressure and demands on them.”

    6.
    Miquel or Bartley, which one will be the better player?
    “Bartley, for me. He has all the ingredients Arsenal have lacked in a centre half, and while Miquel is better technically and more of a ‘genuine footballer’, he is more suited to the Spanish game. Bartley is tall, strong, a good passer of the ball and now has a good amount of experience under his belt. He’s ready to make the first team push, whereas Miquel still needs to add more of the raw aspects of the game. That said, he’s made massive strides in the last year.”

    7. What role do you see Coquelin and Frimpong playing in the side next season?

    “Coquelin will miss pre-season because of the Under 20 World Cup, and that’s a big blow for him. Lorient are very keen to extend his loan spell, and I’d accept that offer, because they’re a fantastic club for developing players. His situation will be better next year, because the first team players will be back late from the European Championships, and he’ll be more ready to make his mark then.”
    “I think Frimpong can be a good fringe player, but he’s missed a lot of football, and when you’re his age, it’s very difficult to catch up. Coquelin has had a year in Ligue One while Emmanuel has done nothing. That said, he’s worked hard on his fitness over the summer and now he’s in great shape to come back, but making the break through for both of them will depend on what happens in the transfer market.”

    8. What’s your honest opinion on Jay Emmanuel-Thomas?

    “He’s an extremely gifted talent, but his attitude and lack of consistency ruins him. He has shown lots of glimpses of his quality, but then goes off the boil and doesn’t look interested. It’s normal for all young players to have spells of inconsistency, but they’re never as erratic as this. Unfortunately, despite receiving a lot of advice from the coaching staff, it doesn’t seem to be going in, and a future away from the club is all but certain.”

    9. What’s your honest opinion on
    BenikAfobe?
    “I’ve followed Benik since he was 14 (not literally!) and I’ve always been impressed. He has all the talent, heart and desire to reach the top, and with some work on some key aspects such as holding the ball up better and learning when to shoot and when to pass, he can be excellent. Benik is a fine example of how a positive attitude and a will to learn and work hard can get you places, even if you’re not a complete player yet.”

    10. Any other players you’d like to give an honourable mention to?

    “Argentine goalkeeper Emi Martínez has had a fantastic season, and has a Szczęsny-esque vibe about him. He’s got everything you’d look for in a young ‘keeper, and he’s been superb in what was a difficult season for the Under 18′s. He’s spent a lot of time training with the first-team, too, and looks to have a bright future.”

    11. Which player, who has left before making a breakthrough in to the Arsenal first team, do you consider to be our biggest loss?

    “I’d have to say Arturo Lupoli. He looked a superb striker in the Carling Cup and did well on loan. He got tempted back to Italy on a big contract and many will say he hasn’t done much there so Arsène Wenger was proved right, but I feel he would have developed significantly at Arsenal and may well have been the penalty box poacher many say we need. It’s a big shame he didn’t sign the contract offered.”

    12. What is the likelihood of getting work permits for Wellington and
    Myachi for next season?
    “Slim. Neither are eligible for a conventional work permit and aren’t in their national team squads, so it means the only option is the unpredictable and difficult world of talent visas. Both are probably better off on loan anyway.”

    13. It has been widely reported that Wellington has issues with his attitude, is this accurate?

    “Unfortunately so. He’s had complaints about it at all his clubs, including Arsenal. The issue comes off the pitch, rather than on it. He doesn’t like training very much, he doesn’t try very hard and has a cocky and arrogant attitude towards other players and staff. He is getting help for it, but how much good it’s doing it’s not clear.”
    “It’s a problem a lot of young Brazilian players suffer from, after moving from poverty to then big money.”

    14. What has gone wrong with Carlos Vela, why has he not progressed as many of us had hoped?

    “Carlos is the type of player who thrives when he has the full support and trust of the manager. He hasn’t really had that yet, and his problems adapting to England, something Arsenal admit is their fault for not supporting him enough at Salamanca, has not helped. He’s done well as a substitute and has a decent goals to games ratio, but he doesn’t get rewarded with a run in the team, even when he’s earned it.”
    “Overall, it’s a mixture of luck, failure to adapt and the lack of trust from managers, but of course that’s not helped with regular Mexico call ups, which disrupt his training schedule.”

    15. Do you believe that continuing to buy youth players from
    Barca will mean that Arsenal will always have to deal with variations of the ‘Cesc saga’ in years to come?
    “Of course, but you can’t begrudge a player from wanting to go home, especially when home is the best team in the world. You’d be disappointed if they didn’t want to be the best and play for the best, but the handling of certain situations in recent season’s hasn’t been good.”
    “Ultimately, Arsenal are happy to take the gamble and sign these players, because even if they do want to go home, there is significant profit involved. Arsenal paid a few hundred thousand for Cesc, and pretty much whatever they make on him would be pure profit. Same with other clubs who have signed La Masia talent.”

    16. What do you think of the 90 minute rule in regards to recruiting young players?

    “In essence its a good idea, but the details of it are sketchy and clubs can and have got around it easily. There is also the argument Arsène makes about young players, which is if your child is good at music, you want them in the best music school. Same with football. This rule can restrict players. It should be a decision down to the parents and player, not the governing body.”

    17. In your opinion, should
    Wilshere have went to the U21 championship?
    “Not at all. Theo Walcott was eligible to go, and choosing Jack is just as illogical as selecting Theo. Once you break through that barrier into the senior team and you play at the top level, it only hampers players to drop them down, because they lose confidence in the system. The Under 21′s is about developing and preparing players for the senior team. Jack has already gone through that and shown he can make the step up. His space in the Under 21′s should be given to a player who hasn’t played so much and still has to make that step.”

    18. What do you think about those who say Wenger’s youth ‘project’ has failed?

    “They don’t understand the project, if they say that. The club make a good amount of money from young players, in terms of loan fees and transfers. The business aspect is very good, and you can see on their day, the team can beat anybody. The issue comes with blending experienced heads with those talents, and unfortunately, Arsène hasn’t done that well enough.”

    19. Away from Arsenal, who are the young players from other teams to keep an eye out for next season?

    “There are a whole collection of exciting talents around at the moment, but I’d say to watch out for the stars of the Bundesliga winners at Borussia Dortmund, including Neven Subotić, Shinji Kagawa and Mario Götze, plus the Spanish youngsters Pablo Sarabia, Isco, Thiago and Javi Martínez. On top of that, pretty much anybody I feature in my FourFourTwo Talentspotter column, as a lot of work goes into recommending talents on there.”

    20. Anything else you’d like to add?

    “Just that the youth system at Arsenal is one of the best in the world, and while we should all be very proud of it, we shouldn’t expect too much. It is there to compliment the first team and transfers, not instead of.”
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    very interesting changes are afoot

    Arsenal Set To Benefit From EPP Plans

    The way English clubs scout, recruit and develop young players is set to change, after Premier League chairman agreed on the terms for a Elite Performance Plan.
    Ivan Gazidis was present at the meeting at the end of the season, in which chairmen discussed ways to revamp the current rulings on youngsters. The key changes come around the signing and development of players, with the ’90 minute rule’ set to be scrapped and coaching times increased.
    The current setup means clubs can only coach players aged between 10 and 18 for a maximum of 2000 hours, but the new proposals allow up to 10,000 hours. Elsewhere, the rule on players only being signed to academies if they live within 90 minutes of the training centre will be removed, but there will be further discussions on greater compensation on the transfer of youngsters, especially with regards to lower league clubs.
    The changes have been mooted for a number of years, with Arsène Wenger and Sir Alex Ferguson two of the key pioneers of the EPP.
    The rulings will come into action from the start of the 2012-2013 season, and the hope is that they will match up with those of Spanish clubs, allowing English sides the option to add more continental coaching methods to their development plans.
    http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2011/06/a...rom-epp-plans/

    Remains to be seen whether the bungling FA will actually implement the changes.
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