Would wenger ever lose 6-1 at home to spurs?

[Boss]

Im saying in terms of being a top player, yeah he scores lots of goals but he'll go missing for a few games. My point was before zimm goes calling him best player ever or him better then Tevez he has to prove it.

When he scores hatricks like Messi does against the big boys and not just the small teams, then ill big him up

Messi's only scored one hattrick in his career against the 'big boys' and that was when he was 19 against Real Madrid.

Aguero has 10 goals in 9 games for Citeh so far, which should be seen as consistent enough. You're showing a complete lack of sense in your argument so let's give it a rest.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Fans were wondering why Wenger wasn't spending while he was at Monaco. It was part of his downfall.

If someone is stealing from the club, then maybe the Man City model isn't such a bad idea?

Depends how much money they had at that club at the time as they were not the richest club or even biggest. Would top players want to go there at that time.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Messi's only scored one hattrick in his career against the 'big boys' and that was when he was 19 against Real Madrid.

Aguero has 10 goals in 9 games for Citeh so far, which should be seen as consistent enough. You're showing a complete lack of sense in your argument so let's give it a rest.

Well can't argue with that, all his quality which i don't, my point was let him prove to be consistant trough out the season before we hail him the Messiah.

[Flavs]

easy when they are tappings though.

Yu are by far my favourite poster on here you brighten my day

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yu are by far my favourite poster on here you brighten my day

what im here for

[Niall_Quinn]

Please, Wenger defends a ticket price hick and activley looks for the cheap transfer option so he can return a healthy profit to his masters. He knows damn well that the fans are unhappy about the team, but still says the answer isn't to spend. Take a look at the guy you're defending.

Yeah the owners have sold their shares and made a neat profit, but are we the only club to have experienced this? I doubt it. Sounds like you have a problem with the way clubs are run in general. This an issue with club ownership on a whole. This goes beyond Arsenal FC and maybe a schme where fans own a slice would actually help matters. It's a scheme this club is trying to promote but we can ignore that.

But listen to what you're saying. Wenger's a shit because he does the bidding of his masters who are acceptable by comparison because every club has a bunch of cunts in charge! And this all started out weeks ago when people were speculating as to what difference, if any, it would make if Wenger was replaced. The answer is none, not in the long term at least. Not unless we got Maureen in to blow the place up. Wenger's "masters" aren't going anywhere. I'm not defending Wenger anyway. I'm saying it's pointless to try and heap all the blame on his shoulders if he's lock-step with the board and doing their bidding. That, after all, is his job. Plainly the board's job is to rob the club, why aren't you raging against them all the time? Why is Wenger getting 100% of the flak?

[fakeyank]

Because it doesn't have to be about extremes. There can be a middle ground, it's where most teams play in fact. You can do things like make £55mill on transfers out and then spend the £55mill on transfers in.

I agree.. 55 million and another 15-20 million for another player... this is in an ideal world. Not in AW's world though.

[Cripps_orig]

Point of this thread = 0.

/thread

Pretty much

Would Ferguson ever lose 8-2 and 6-1 to the same team who he considers title rivals?

[fakeyank]

But listen to what you're saying. Wenger's a shit because he does the bidding of his masters who are acceptable by comparison because every club has a bunch of cunts in charge! And this all started out weeks ago when people were speculating as to what difference, if any, it would make if Wenger was replaced. The answer is none, not in the long term at least. Not unless we got Maureen in to blow the place up. Wenger's "masters" aren't going anywhere. I'm not defending Wenger anyway. I'm saying it's pointless to try and heap all the blame on his shoulders if he's lock-step with the board and doing their bidding. That, after all, is his job. Plainly the board's job is to rob the club, why aren't you raging against them all the time? Why is Wenger getting 100% of the flak?

Why is AW still in the job if he is a puppet of the board? He clearly stated he wouldnt stay at a football club if football matters were not in his hands. If its about the 6 million he makes a year, he can make double that at Real and Real wouldnt mind some of the bad press off their back with Mourinho making them the mafia of Spain. Then there is PSG who would double his pay as well... why would AW stay?

Do you think SAF wouldve stayed at Utd? SAF, AW have made enough money to last a few generations and they are not people in it for the money... they love the game. Its just that AW is stubborn and doesnt change with the time, he has more than an eye on the financial side of things while SAF is football through and through.

[Niall_Quinn]

Why do you have to swing from one extreme to the other? So if Wenger's not leading the board by the nose, he can only be their puppet! Why can't he be an employee that happens to see eye to eye with his employers? But maybe for very different reasons. Why are some people going to such extreme lengths to eliminate the board from the analysis when it comes to figuring out what has been going wrong in the last few seasons?

Somewhere along the line the board decided it was going to cash out. Wenger is the ideal manager to have in place if you want to maximise what goes into your pocket, minimise what goes into the team and still do enough to claim the club is ambitious and competitive (keep the money coming in from the fans). And that's exactly what has happened right up until this season where the continuous bleeding of quality has finally tipped us over the edge. The year after the board jumped ship, btw.

Simple question. Why can't Wenger AND the board be responsible for the shit we're in? Why is it so impossibly difficult for some to believe the people in charge are responsible for the direction the club has taken. It's like going to ridiculous lengths to explain why the drunk driver can't possibly be responsible for wrapping his car around a tree because the drunk navigator gave him a bad steer. Bullshit, this club has suffered a failure of leadership in recent years and has seen a significant downturn in its fortunes on the pitch as a result. Meanwhile, certain individuals have diverted money that could have been used to alleviate our on the field problems and spirited it out of the club in the form of a huge pay day. Has this or has this not happened? So what, you think the board ended up saying, well Wenger won't spend the money so fuck it, we'll have it all for ourselves? You think they have been forced into robbing the club? By Wenger?