Jesus you just don't get it at all do you?Originally Posted by FakeYank
Jesus you just don't get it at all do you?
There's an obvious difference between Wenger and the managers that won't accept 2nd best, they do everything they can to win....he seems to juggle finances with the football side thus not doing everything he can.
He's a football manager that see's himself as some sort of moral guardian for football, he doesn't seem to put football above everything else as the club which is what a manager should do. The financial side should be handled by those employed to do so.
That be the truth. . .there is no way that Wenger looks to satisfied with results that keep us in a mediocre funk.
Its as if youre saying (not you Letters) that he throws games, plans games in a way so that we dont overachieve ie finish third rather than fourth.
Suppose you think (again not you Letters) that he deliberately hijacked our attempt to win our first trophy in years last season by telling Kos and Ches to royally fuck their communication right up.
I do not doubt he cares, he may lack spark he had before which comes across differently to some but he cares
It is. They ask Wenger to buy kids with potential or raw talent, shop-window them and sell on at a profit. Then they stick the money in their own pockets. They have it handled very well, tbh. From their point of view at least. I've just checked and yet again, nobody has killed them. This is getting pathetic now.The financial side should be handled by those employed to do so.
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Short answer: Cos’ being caught pants down, cheeks up with no lube means the usual suspects here feel the need to justify their inclinations or explain why they’re in such compromising pose in the first place. And you don't need to be an Einstein to work out that their excuse of clearing blocked waste pipes doesn’t quite tell the whole story.
Alternate answer: Look no further than this post from another thread for an abridged version into the baffling mystery.
And the irony of the mind blowing statement above is:Kroenke is going to turn things around. A good man he is.
Kroenke and the board are... Wengerites!!
As you can see from the above, it’s OK and commendable for the employers to be applauded with a vote of confidence for being Wengerites, but it’s not OK for the employee to be one himself (and by Wengerite I mean the entire kitchen sink from these folks). With proud retarded logic like that, why insult your intelligence or waste your time any further?
Your avatar pic is quite an apt description of your agony. I recall you made a similar nice post in the Sunderland thread, but no prizes for guessing who ignored it.
How do you know this?
I’ll repeat the point about Ian Wright and Anelka again. Do you think the Board told Wenger to bench our all-time top goal scorer and replace him with some unknown teen that cost us £500k? Buying young and unknown is part of Wenger’s philosophy and it makes no sense for the Board to tell him to sell off our star players and replace them with unknown players when we’re trying to grow our international fanbase.
Of course he's the board's mouthpiece, he's the club's front man and would be expected to support the party line. Part of the job description I'm sure. I'll say it again, my argument is not based on keeping Wenger in his job, it simply asks what the point of sacking him would be if the controlling culprits stay in place. Wenger is doing what he's paid to do, keep us in touch with the big boys whilst making profits for the board. This leaves the fans living in hope whilst relieving them of ever increasing amounts of cash. Job done. The board love him, he's going nowhere.
Whether he agrees with what's happening or has been promised something in the log term, who can know? Maybe he really does believe we can compete without spending money, delusional but there you go.
Unfortunately corporate owners genuinely believe they provide key value to their organisations but this is rarely true. They also believe the revenue generated by their customers and people within their organisation who do the actual work belongs to them to spend as they see fit, even if that means enriching themselves at the expense of the organisation. We see this all the time.
The corporation is essentially a scam. It originated as a fixed term method to undertake large and costly projects funded by interested parties, usually including the public who stood to share in the end benefits. Then a few miserable and astoundingly selfish and greedy cunts subverted the whole process and persuaded the whores for hire in government to greatly expand the function, rights and longevity of the corporation and so the human race went down the shitter. Unfortunately what Wenger is doing is now viewed as normal, even though it's immoral and insane in reality. This is what you mean when you say all club owners are the same, I suppose. I agree, they are, they have been indoctrinated in an environment of entitlement and inequity. And it all goes way beyond football of course.
Sacking Wenger only leaves room for the next person who won't be able to do a damn thing about how these vampires operate. As things stand now, considering he wasn't sacked in the summer, he's putting together a run of wins, he's operating within the tight confines dictated by the leeches and the players seem to be responding to him again. I'll take it. It's better than it might have been. My expectations have been lowered and because I'm a football fan and a fan of Arsenal I'm going to try and grab whatever enjoyment can be squeezed from the current predicament.
In some ways we're all becoming closer to the game as the majority of fans experience it. We had some good years but they're gone. Now we breathe a sigh of relief when we scrape past Sunderland. Such are the ups and downs of football. Maybe Ox will play tonight. Maybe he'll score a cracking goal. Something to look forward to while we wait for the board members to die.
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Wright and Anelka goes way back to a different landscape. But I agree Wenger's philosophy seems to be a constant. During his tenure we've had the greatest success we've ever had on the pitch, plus the worst nightmares. When money wasn't the defining element we could compete, when money took over we were trampled. This has been a wild swing exacerbated by the board pulling money out of the club at the very time we needed just that little bit more investment. If you look at the variables rather than the constant you can see our fortunes declined when the transfer funds dried up and property became our primary concern rather than football. I suppose it could be a coincidence but I wouldn't like to repeat the experiment for verification. You keep focusing on Wenger but can't you even detect a hint of a shift in the board's philosophy leading up to and following the stadium move? We were the great English club who didn't allow "his sort" within a mile, and then suddenly we were the opposite. Wenger again? Surely not.
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With the appointment of Stan, Gazidis and that lawyer guy that came from the States, I see a slight shift. We’re bringing in people that actually have a history in sport. They didn’t sell out to the fat oil baron guy. That has to tell you something? Also, why have they gone for American guys that work in MLS or other sport franchise’s where regulations regarding contracts, wages and funds are way more restrictive?
My guess is we’re trying to grow our international fanbase and up our sponsorship deals so we can up our revenue. As for old Board members selling their shares, they’ve made a profit but they could have sold us down the river to some murky oil baron or some crook with Triad connections. It could be worse.
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