Don't know what it is, but he seems genuinely fond of our club and proud to be captain - by contrast Cesc looked a bit contrived.
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter
He knows how much the club have backed him whilst he was out for those long periods injured. He showed in those fit spells what he could do, although he did seem to show it in most of the big games, and we the fans were on his case for being brittle. Now we are seeing what he can do when he's in the ultimate condition. He has been carrying the team for most of the season and the media have not hesitated in highlighting this. Even us fans have been bleating about it too. But, in my view, that is what a captain is there for. To show that leadership to the others and get them through it. Yes he's scoring the majority of the goals, but that's what he gets paid for. No one says that about the likes of Rooney when he's on a rich streak of goal scoring. RvP has drageed the team through the mire and now the players around him are manning up and playing with him to create those chances. He led the celebrations at the ending calling the team down to the away end, a bit over the top as it was like we had just won a trophy, but it showed great team spirit. I reckon Cesc would have just applauded his way down the tunnel.
I've always thought that, he's one of the few I've thought really cares about the club......I don't think that'll be enough to keep him at the club though, realistically a player of his talent will want some trophies at this stage and unless we show we can deliver and maybe show a bit of ambition it may be hard to hold onto him.
Would be a real body blow to lose him if we did.
and rightly so, As much as it will be a blow too lose him like zimm said, he'd be 30 and without a medal so i think he'd want to go, but if we got a good deal for him say £25 mill won't be bad IF we spend it, IF NOT then we'd be screwed.
Give RVP want he wants tbh. Sign players if need be. RVP is not money orienated so we know if he left it would not be for the money.
Personally unilke Nasri id don't think he'd leave us high and dry, i think he'd sign a new deal just to cover us
Last edited by Olivier's xmas twist; 29-10-2011 at 07:01 PM.
"I really like Arsenal. Do you really like Arsenal, or only Arsenal with trophies?" - Dennis Bergkamp.
"Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.
Yes but not everyone is as Asian as you. He has some sense of loyalty beyond trophies and money - as so he should with Wenger and the club sticking by him through his injury problems for all these years...besides, at his age, he isn't as in-demand from the ultra top clubs as one might think. He is on fine form at the moment, but obviously he won't be averaging over one a game for long and he will have periods where he struggles.
I think Cesc was always quite clever with the words he chose and we were always clear on the fact that some day he would go. Nasri is a different matter - he is still quite young, hadn't stayed at this club as long and, IMO, has a higher ceiling than even Van Persie. Van Persie is a proper gooner - just like Szczesny and Sir Jack. I'm very confident he'll stay.
Last edited by Syn; 29-10-2011 at 07:28 PM.
"I really like Arsenal. Do you really like Arsenal, or only Arsenal with trophies?" - Dennis Bergkamp.
"Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.
He ain't going nowhere.
Decide for yourselves if that was a deliberate double negative.
IF he leaves at the end of this season, how would he think he'd be regarded in Arsenal circles?
With contempt (a la Cole, Adebayor, Nasri), with affection (Henry, Vieira, Seaman, Wright, endless list really) or with indifference (e.g. Fabregas, Toure- we wouldn't really know whether to boo them or applaud them if they came back!)?
I would think a lot rests on what happens between now and the Summer. Maybe if he makes motions about wanting to leave, then it would be to the detriment of the team of course.
However, if a move just "happens", so to speak, in the close season and it's at the end of a trophyless campaign, I'd still think he'd be welcomed back with adulation whenever/however he comes back.
Formerly TMOKJ