Aye. People have to stop thinking that just because we're not playing Barca or Real Madrid that everyone else in the competition is shite.
They're all, by the very fact of them being there, one of the better sides in their league and in this group we've got a side from the French league and one from the German league. Neither are as strong as the PL but they're not shite teams. 4 points from 2 games is fine. Compare and contrast with Chelsea who drew with frickin' Genk last night!