Won 2 trophies tbh. Something we wont do with this team in 10 yearsOriginally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
Won 2 trophies tbh. Something we wont do with this team in 10 years
Thought it was the level of entertainment rather than the result that mattered to you?
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter
@Ach You're too young to remember how bloody boring it was though.
We scored 40 league goals in 42 games
We've scored 20 already in 10 this year, and that's with that dodgy start.
I know what I'd rather watch.
Probably right. I was an Arsenal fan then but i was Ollies/WMUGs age around 10 or 11 so dont remember much bar the trophies we won. It was from the season after to 2010 where i watched football religiously and wouldnt miss an Arsenal game for the world but the 2 games ive been to this season have been awful to watch. Won 1-0 and drew 0-0 in the other. You want your moneys worth when you go to games and i havent had it@Ach You're too young to remember how bloody boring it was though.
We scored 40 league goals in 42 games
We've scored 20 already in 10 this year, and that's with that dodgy start.
I know what I'd rather watch.
The games i attend, entertainment over boring shit.
Well I agree it's not been great this year but it's got better of late. OK, the Marseille game was a bit of a damp squib but I thought we were pretty good against Stoke, looked a bit more like Arsenal again. The summer was a disaster and the early season results compounded it and after the Utd game we were on the floor. We've slowly picked ourselves up again though and while we're not a great side this year there are a few signs now that we're not quite as bad as our early season form indicated and we could do OK. I doubt we'll win any trophies but with billionaires throwing money around they're not as easy to come by as they used to be.
In 92/93 our league run from November on was:
LLLLDDLDWLLWDLDWWDLWLDDDLWL
That's P27 W6 D9 L12. 27 points from 27 games. We finished with 56 points - Crystal Palace went down that year and they got 49. We scored 18 goals in those 27 games. In 16 of them we didn't score at all. In brief, we were a pretty shit, boring side back then but we did have a bit of fight in us and the ability to raise it for the big games.
We won two trophies and there are moments which I did 'thoroughly enjoy' in that season (The Spurs semi-final - revenge for '91 - and of course the two (well, 3 with the replay) Cup Finals). But even those were boring games of football in which we ground out results, it all seemed great at the time because I was at them all and more into football than I am now. But those games could easily have gone the other way and all we'd have to remember that season by is the boring football and the fact that it was the year I genuinely thought we might go down. There were a few exciting results but over the course of a 9 month season it wasn't great. Fine if you only care about the end result but if you follow them on the journey you want a bit more than that.
Anyway, things could be better right now but there are a few signs of hope so let's hope for a good win on Saturday and keep the run going.
Wouldnt disagree. We've been more boring and for a longer period in previous times but im specifically talking about games ive gone to. 2 games this season = 1 goal and 2 shit performances and the goal was a keeper error so it easily could have been 0 goals. Compared to the first 2 games i went to last season where i saw 10 goals (granted we lost one of those) and overall in the 8 games i went to, i saw an average of over 3 goals a game. Was oping to see more of the same this season. Cant see it now.
Plus cos i work nowthe last 2 Arsenal games ive seen (2 Marseille games) have been really dull and missed the games inbetween including the Chelsea game and watching the highlights for that, already knowing the score isnt as exciting, I can genuinely say i havent been entertained by Arsenal since early 2011. Probably the Barca home game
The cup runs were great to be honest, don't know how you can call those boring I really did enjoy them and it was nailbiting at times.Well I agree it's not been great this year but it's got better of late. OK, the Marseille game was a bit of a damp squib but I thought we were pretty good against Stoke, looked a bit more like Arsenal again. The summer was a disaster and the early season results compounded it and after the Utd game we were on the floor. We've slowly picked ourselves up again though and while we're not a great side this year there are a few signs now that we're not quite as bad as our early season form indicated and we could do OK. I doubt we'll win any trophies but with billionaires throwing money around they're not as easy to come by as they used to be.
In 92/93 our league run from November on was:
LLLLDDLDWLLWDLDWWDLWLDDDLWL
That's P27 W6 D9 L12. 27 points from 27 games. We finished with 56 points - Crystal Palace went down that year and they got 49. We scored 18 goals in those 27 games. In 16 of them we didn't score at all. In brief, we were a pretty shit, boring side back then but we did have a bit of fight in us and the ability to raise it for the big games.
We won two trophies and there are moments which I did 'thoroughly enjoy' in that season (The Spurs semi-final - revenge for '91 - and of course the two (well, 3 with the replay) Cup Finals). But even those were boring games of football in which we ground out results, it all seemed great at the time because I was at them all and more into football than I am now. But those games could easily have gone the other way and all we'd have to remember that season by is the boring football and the fact that it was the year I genuinely thought we might go down. There were a few exciting results but over the course of a 9 month season it wasn't great. Fine if you only care about the end result but if you follow them on the journey you want a bit more than that.
Anyway, things could be better right now but there are a few signs of hope so let's hope for a good win on Saturday and keep the run going.
The league may not have been great but the cup runs more than made up for that and that's very much what we focussed on hence the results in the league.
Incidentally we were never going to go down and at no stage did I think we were either.
The stuff we get these days is a real bore, what's more it's compounded by lack of success as well, please tell me what's enjoyable about watching a bunch of overpaid pansies putting next to no effort in and making the same errors, week in week out, year in year out!
I've lost a lot of interest in our games, basically because most of the time it's just boring repetitive rubbish that's just not enjoyable.
Last edited by Özim; 04-11-2011 at 12:26 PM.
There were some good and exciting games in those cup runs. I seem to remember a marathon against Leeds, didn't we play them 4 times? Even then I seem to remember the home games being BLOODY boring although the away ones were exciting.
And yeah, towards the end the Spurs game was great as were the cup finals. All awful games of football for a neutral but for those of us involved it was brilliant. But you're still talking about quite a small number of games in a long season. In the week to week slog of the league we were mostly awful. And this, remember, was only 2 years after we'd finished champions.
6 wins out of 27. 16 games out of those we didn't score. 40 goals in 42 league games. It was pretty crap.
You enjoyed the end result (which could have been very different, there are fine lines in football sometimes) as did I, and there were some good games in the cup runs but I don't believe for one minute you enjoyed the football we played or think that the football even this year is as bad.
If you only care about the end result, don't go to games and only care about trophies then yes, I guess that was better. If you're following a team week to week and going to games then the football is miles better now - although admittedly not in all games this season but it has got better of late.
Pretty much all players are overpaid pansies these days which makes the whole experience of football less enjoyable these days although we have shown a bit more fight recently, we were behind twice at Stamford Bridge and pegged back to 3-3 and we won, we were pegged back against Stoke and Sunderland and won. There are some signs for cautious optimism that this season won't quite be the disaster we feared early season.
I have to say I didn't find the cup runs boring personally, I enjoyed seeing those matches and watching us progress with some hard fought wins.
The results stat has to be put into perspective, we very much focussed on the cups and thus our league form suffered, it wasn't our priority and the results illustrated that.
It's not all about trophies but watching your team show heart, fight for every ball and hunger (in the cups) is great, had we not won it would have still be a great cup run the fact we did made it even better....the wins against the odds against a superior Wednesday side were brilliant and the last gasp goal was one of those moments where you couldn't help going crazy after an enthralling encounter.
At the end of the day it's not all about trophies but you know what, a club of our stature should be competing and should be picking up trophies here and there, our lack of heart for the fight and casual attitude are awful traits and together with our repetitive football makes for a rather boring experience.
It's just not enjoyable watching a team who you already know are going to fail before they've even started, and that's what I liked about the Graham team, sure they didn't play great football and maybe lost games they shouldn't...but at the back of your mind you always knew they were capable of upsetting the odds and beating the big boys, I haven't had that feeling with Wenger's sides for a long time.
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