We need a sugar daddy to compete.

[AKBapologist]

It's Abramovich's fault Eboue went mental against Liverpool.

It's the Glazers fault Chez and Kos spazzed out at Wembley.

It's the Arabs fault teams fighting relegation displayed better form than us in the closing weeks of the season.

etc.

We're more than good enough to compete but we don't win anything because of the manager we have.

It's our fault we're still clinging on to Eboue, do you think that sort of dross would have made any of our Rivals defence?

It's our fault we signed Kos and Squillachi... Bargin basement signings instead of the type of quality our rivals could pry off EPL teams.

It's our fault we had to re-sign Jens, instead of stumping up the extra 1-2 mill for mark schwarzer last summer.

And in Winter, instead of meeting Blackburns evaluation of Samba, we thought the extra 2mill beyond our evaluation for potentially season defining cover wasn't good value.

I could go on... I think this summer will prove just how pathetic a force we've become during transfer windows.


Even with a shit manager, city have proven just how much money matters. If AW has to go, then he has to go, but the bottom line is that even a new manager would want/need more resources than what we have to build a competent team out of this lot.

[Xhaka Can’t]

LDG is right on the money (pardon the pun) with his post. We don't have a financial problem at this Club, we have a cultural problem.

[AKBapologist]

LDG is right on the money (pardon the pun) with his post. We don't have a financial problem at this Club, we have a cultural problem.

We have a cultural problem now? What does that even mean? SO you change the manager... Then what? Does anyone actually think things through?

[Flavs]

It's our fault we're still clinging on to Eboue, do you think that sort of dross would have made any of our Rivals defence?

Well as a 2nd choice right back he is better than Wes Brown dats fo shaw...

Eboue is a good example of a Wenger player in fact, brilliant physical attributes good technical attributes brain like a turnip. More an athlete than a footballer and not "In-lined" in the way another manager would make him be.

[Xhaka Can’t]

We have a cultural problem now? What does that even mean? SO you change the manager... Then what? Does anyone actually think things through?

We have had that problem for years. A culture in an organisational sense is what behaviours attributes and ethics exist within the organisation/team. The culture of an organisation and what is acceptable are generally determined by senior management within that orgaisation and filter down. If there is an ingrained culture, it can be very difficult to change unless you have a strong will amongst management that are prepared to take the actions necessary. This can be a very difficult task to achieve particularly the longer those attitudes and behaviours have existed.

The key people responsible for the culture we see at Arsenal are, the Board, the Manager and the Captain.

Throwing money at the problem while maintaining the same people responsible for where we are in this regard is likely to achieve nothing.

If you want a practical example, consider the work ethic and leadership within the team at Old Trafford, and compare that with ours. When you have done so, you'll see where our main problems lie.

[AKBapologist]

Throwing money at the situation doesn't preclude the notion that the same people in charge would stay in charge... Infact, quite the opposite. Silly argument.

The aspiration of the fans can't be served by our ownership/resource model. A change of this model would certainly induce a chance of ethos at all levels.

[budesonide]

We have had that problem for years. A culture in an organisational sense is what behaviours attributes and ethics exist within the organisation/team. The culture of an organisation and what is acceptable are generally determined by senior management within that orgaisation and filter down. If there is an ingrained culture, it can be very difficult to change unless you have a strong will amongst management that are prepared to take the actions necessary. This can be a very difficult task to achieve particularly the longer those attitudes and behaviours have existed.

The key people responsible for the culture we see at Arsenal are, the Board, the Manager and the Captain.

Throwing money at the problem while maintaining the same people responsible for where we are in this regard is likely to achieve nothing.

If you want a practical example, consider the work ethic and leadership within the team at Old Trafford, and compare that with ours. When you have done so, you'll see where our main problems lie.

when wenger first arrived, he was lucky -- the foundation was solid with the team he inherited.

He then struck even more luck with the sheer quality of players like anelka,henry and vieira. He probably mistook the sheer brilliance of these players to supercede anything else. But these players were some of the best of their generation -- and sometimes that alone got us out of sticky situations. How many times did henry bail us out. I remember he secured us the 4th spot as a sub against spurs in one of his last years with us.

There is also not wanting to pay over the odds and there is wanting to pay the same prices for top players you had to pay almost a two decades ago.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Throwing money at the situation doesn't preclude the notion that the same people in charge would stay in charge... Infact, quite the opposite. Silly argument.

The aspiration of the fans can't be served by our ownership/resource model. A change of this model would certainly induce a chance of ethos at all levels.

My argument is not silly, it is condsidered and long held. You want a sugar daddy and see this as a way of solving our competitive problems when in fact we should have no competitive problems with the personnel we have. You have completely failed to grasp the point I've made even when I have explained what lies behind the assertion made.

If you don't think our team is one that is talented but constrained by a poor work attitude and ethic, then you have not been paying attention or digging below the surface to think about what lies behind our failure to maintain a consistently high level of performance at varying times of the season - often against significantly weaker opposition.

Our problems can be solved without the pathetic solution you postulate - the resources already exist, the will sadly does not.

[Flavs]

Ah the old "Everthing bad is Wengers fault and everthing good is luck" technique.

I always preferred the hells wind staff myself

[AKBapologist]

My argument is not silly, it is condsidered and long held. You want a sugar daddy and see this as a way of solving our competitive problems when in fact we should have no competitive problems with the personnel we have. You have completely failed to grasp the point I've made even when I have explained what lies behind the assertion made.

If you don't think our team is one that is talented but constrained by a poor work attitude and ethic, then you have not been paying attention or digging below the surface to think about what lies behind our failure to maintain a consistently high level of performance at varying times of the season - often against significantly weaker opposition.

Our problems can be solved without the pathetic solution you postulate - the resources already exist, the will sadly does not.

Our second string squad isn't good enough, we're unable to buy the type of talent we used to be able to buy (bergkamp would be a +40mill player in this market). We are just not competitive in a financial sense, and that's one of the main things that has changed in recent times. Your blinkered if you feel otherwise.