Arsenal v Man City Carling Cup - Quarter Final Tuesday 29th November 2011 8.00pm SKY SPORTS

[Boss]

what happens if just makes ten appearances and it adds up to about two games worth of minutes. he has done fuck all so far, will do fuck all for rest of his time

He's set up a goal every game he's started in the PL (6 assists in 6), which is more than any of our players. For the record.

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1. The 'being offered 180k and rejecting United' bit is all press conjecture, other reports state that United wanted him but weren't willing to stump up 25M for a player in the last year of his contract.

2. If you want to win stuff, United or Citeh, hmm... who's top of the table?

When I had a stadium tour, Charlie George said it was all in place for Nasri to go to Utd till City came in.

[Boss]

thats your argument? which team won the league, got to CL final and fa cup semi? united did, just cos citeh are top doesnt mean they will win the league. we were top at one point last year i think, or at least year before, didnt mean we would ring it. united will qualify for CL, citeh will be in europa. united are proven winners, citeh have one fa cup in about 30 years

Past history means nothing given the huge changes that have happened in the last three years. Chelsea hadn't won the league in fifty odd years before they did so, but it would have been foolish to write off their trophy chances in 2004/05 and say players were joining them only for the money.

Citeh had just as good a chance of the league this year as United if not better, don't see how anyone can deny that.

Don't really care about how Nasri does and fairly happy he hasn't reached the heights he did with us but it's tedious in the extreme to read stuff like 'Money grabbing filthy lesbian whorebag CUNT' 30 times in any thread he's mentioned.

[PGFC]

Nasri should be showered with tampons tbf, Clichy & Kolo should just be reminded they're only good enough for the CC

[Boss]

I get the feeling we didn't want to keep Clichy. He certainly wouldn't have got into any better teams (it's surprising that Man City wanted him). With that in mind, and considering he did do some good time here (8 years) despite the likes of Real Madrid sniffing around in 2008, I don't think it's on the same level as Nasri. Same with Kolo - we were more than happy to take £16m off Man City for him. I don't think it's fair to assume Clichy was going for the same reasons as Nasri - whatever those reasons are - because there were not many options for Clichy. Nasri put in 3 good months and then fucked off - much similar to Hleb and Flamini. By all accounts, he had Man Utd available and I'm sure more top clubs would've been interested because he is a fantastic talent.

Personally, I wouldn't bother giving Toure or Clichy a good reception. I don't think they did anything extraordinary or unselfish. Similarly I don't think they were selfish and gave back to the club as much as they got. They're on the opposing team and we want to beat them - we won't make them feel unwelcome but we shouldn't make them feel welcome either. That is my view.

I don't have strong feelings against Nasri...he is just your average footballer. He probably didn't have the same attachment to the club that someone like Wilshere had (being involved with the club since 9). I would've hoped that he would have shown more loyalty to Wenger and the club but ultimately he didn't 'force' a move and was within his rights to leave wherever he wanted to. Am I glad that he is failing to make an impact and rotting on the bench at City and pissing away what could've been a glittering career? I'm not not glad.

Don't really disagree with any of that. My only thought is that if United and Citeh both come in with an offer for you, and they're both as likely to win the league, there's nothing wrong with taking an offer at Citeh at 180k over an offer at United at 90k.

I think in the past you could level accusations at players who went to Citeh to be only in it for the money but it's different now. Clichy going there (guaranteed, he didn't have many options apart from them and Liverpool) instead of staying with us shows this.

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He's set up a goal every game he's started in the PL (6 assists in 6), which is more than any of our players. For the record.

'For the record' three of those were at White Hart Lane. Since then he has only really regularly started in the Champions League, where he has done nothing.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

We're deluding ourselves if we think Nasri only went for the money. City are a club going places, and the chances of winning a major trophy there is much higher than at Arsenal these days, especially with Wenger tacitly admitting that fourth place is the main objective of this season (which chimes nicely with the board's objectives)

And even if Nasri went for the money, so what? He's just like any other footballer really, especially those that don't have any emotional ties with the club.

Joker, I swear you are a Citeh fan or a bigger WUM than Cripps!

Is there anything you like about the club?
you call for RvPs departure even though he is the PLs leading scorer
say Wenger must go too, even though he has us in a run of 13 unbeaten games, are you a fool do you think that Wenger will call a halt to the winning if we get in 4th? "Wait lads, better not win the next game cos we dont want to get above ourselves!" Fucking do me a favour
say its better to be at Citeh because theyre going places?

Yes they do have more chance of winning a trophy as they have bought about 99% of all active professional players!
we have to find a way to combat their wealth and by the looks if it we werent wrong to sell Nasri for a profit cos hes doing fuck all for em and we look better without I'm

Shit NQ have a word with this guy!

[Syn]

He's set up a goal every game he's started in the PL (6 assists in 6), which is more than any of our players. For the record.

In 6-1 smashings against pub teams? You can't seriously think he has made much of an impact? Opta stats also says Aaron Ramsey creates a goalscoring chance every 46 mins - but we're not hailing him as some sort of creative genius. It's clear Nasri is not playing a significant role in the title challenge right now and if he has any pride, being at best a squad player should not be what a player of his ability signed up for. Ollie's being gay with the 'Man Utd's chances of winning trophies > Man City's' but don't be pedantic about the 'fuck all' impact...he really is doing nothing of note.

[Cripps_orig]

Joker, I swear you are a Citeh fan or a bigger WUM than Cripps!

Is there anything you like about the club?
you call for RvPs departure even though he is the PLs leading scorer
say Wenger must go too, even though he has us in a run of 13 unbeaten games, are you a fool do you think that Wenger will call a halt to the winning if we get in 4th? "Wait lads, better not win the next game cos we dont want to get above ourselves!" Fucking do me a favour
say its better to be at Citeh because theyre going places?

Yes they do have more chance of winning a trophy as they have bought about 99% of all active professional players!
we have to find a way to combat their wealth and by the looks if it we werent wrong to sell Nasri for a profit cos hes doing fuck all for em and we look better without I'm

Shit NQ have a word with this guy!

Harsh

[Boss]

'For the record' three of those were at White Hart Lane. Since then he has only really regularly started in the Champions League, where he has done nothing.

Fair enough. I agree he's done fuck all relative to his talent, but the season is long and he will get plenty of chances to show his worth. I'm happy he's reached nowhere near his potential because I think he could become a far better player than Silva or Mata.

It boils down to whether players would prefer being a bit part player in a title winning side to a star player in an average team. Don't know anything about Nasri's mindset so can't say anything about that, but would he be receiving this level of hate if he went to United and was playing (as far) below his level? Doubt it.

If someone chucks money at you, you take it. 99% of the people on here would do the same thing.