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    Yeah, Barca are one of the biggest teams in the world who are able to afford to blow massive amounts of loans in players because the banks aren't willing to do shit against them, I don't think we can point at them as a marvel of modern football in that respect. Their academy is, however, better than ours which is something we can aspire to reach and as one of our youth products was on a par with theirs, we're not THAT far off imo.

    We don't buy the top players at their peak because we can't afford them so instead of going the Spurs route of throwing money at mediocre players in the hope that something sticks (which it did, for one whole season, whooo), we develop the talented youngsters which requires a little more management than spending large amounts on players at the top the second echelon in the hope they push onto the higher level.

    I do agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment that there must be a balance in these things though, I think it was slightly off but given that we were financially hamstrung I can see why we erred in the favour of development, now we see if we can push on I guess by buying in experience and slightly older talents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Vela View Post
    Yeah, Barca are one of the biggest teams in the world who are able to afford to blow massive amounts of loans in players because the banks aren't willing to do shit against them, I don't think we can point at them as a marvel of modern football in that respect. Their academy is, however, better than ours which is something we can aspire to reach and as one of our youth products was on a par with theirs, we're not THAT far off imo.

    We don't buy the top players at their peak because we can't afford them so instead of going the Spurs route of throwing money at mediocre players in the hope that something sticks (which it did, for one whole season, whooo), we develop the talented youngsters which requires a little more management than spending large amounts on players at the top the second echelon in the hope they push onto the higher level.
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    No; you missed my point.

    Those are not the reasons why we are not buying where and when we need real quality.

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    Why aren't we then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Vela View Post
    Why aren't we then?
    [/QUOTE]According to wenger he does not buy BECAUSE doing so will 'kill' the likes of bendtner,diaby,denilson etc. When these players have bid their goodbyes after not being "killed" by AW, let's hope he actually buys and KEEPS HOLD of the quality and established players or "super super quality" players he chooses not to buy because of these so-called promising youngsters. [/QUOTE]

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    Yes, and the reason for that is developing younger players is fricking pointless if you bring in mediocre guys and limit their chances, isn't that exactly what I said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Vela View Post
    Yes, and the reason for that is developing younger players is fricking pointless if you bring in mediocre guys and limit their chances, isn't that exactly what I said?
    Eh?

    Who said anything about bringing in mediocre players? You said that.

    Weren't you claiming we don't have money to spend on top players? And that we are financially humstrung? While AW have been claiming for over 5 years that he doesn't sign top players or 'super super quality' players because it will kill his youngsters -- a self-imposed restriction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Vela View Post
    Yes, and the reason for that is developing younger players is fricking pointless if you bring in mediocre guys and limit their chances, isn't that exactly what I said?
    Let's be honest here, the vaste majority of these youngsters are mediocre, our youth policy really isn't anything special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    Eh?

    Who said anything about bringing in mediocre players? You said that.

    Weren't you claiming we don't have money to spend on top players? And that we are financially humstrung? While AW have been claiming for over 5 years that he doesn't sign top players or 'super super quality' players because it will kill his youngsters -- a self-imposed restriction.
    You did, although maybe not intentionally.

    There are only two ways of doing this, if you can't pay for the top guys at the top of their game to pack out your squad then you need to either develop the youngsters or buy in mediocre players in the hope that they step up, those are the only two options to build a team.

    If Wenger could pack out the team with top players I feel sure he would but we were unable to do so, hence the youth thing. Now we have a little more cash and the squad needs tweaking I'm sure he'll get in more experience, players closer to their peak and at a good quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Let's be honest here, the vaste majority of these youngsters are mediocre, our youth policy really isn't anything special.
    Well, we'll know a little better when this new batch comes through properly imo. The last lot that are no longer here have carved out decent careers around the Premiership and I'm pretty damn sure that Bendtner and Denilson will go to good teams, CL teams or those challenging for those spaces probably.

    Whichever way you look at it, the closest guys to us who've used the alternative method have come up consistently short, that says something for our squad.

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