Champions League Knock Out Stages Draw - 16 Dec 2011 - Nyon

[Letters]

The first of the fixes is publicly announced, it's called seeding which is another way to say rigging the draw so the big teams all find it easier to get to the latter rounds.

I know. I already mentioned this.

[Letters]

Someone on Redcafe posted the draws that Chelsea have had in the FA Cup over the last 5-6 seasons, and especially in the early rounds, they've always had extremely easy opposition, and if you compare their draws with the draws of other "big" teams, I'm sure the difference is statistically significant at the 1% level.

Someone on RedCafe doesn't understand statistics or the nature of randomness over time either then

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm happy with the draw, we'll beat Milan. I'd have been more worried about getting a minnow because we take those games too lightly. We'll be up for this and we'll win it.

Silly debate about whether the time and again proven corrupt cunts are corrupt. Duh.

[Özim]

Tough draw but are Milan that good? Italian teams are a bit better these days (certainly than they have been) but think they're beatable, having said that we made hard work of Udinese.

Anyway we were never going to win this thing, that's gonna be Barca or Real, Wenger should play his 2nd team like he does in the other cups so we can concentrate on getting the 4th place major trophy.

[Niall_Quinn]

I know. I already mentioned this.

So they don't do it because they support one team or the other, they do it to maximise revenue. So why would they suddenly stop doing that at the latter stages? It's all about the money. Anyway, we were never winning this. Even if we beat Milan and end up getting through to the final there are plenty of refs who can guarantee the desired outcome - as we have seen time and again in the past. Whole thing is rigged from top to bottom, teh only things left to chance are those which make no odds.

[Letters]

There's a clear difference between seeding and rigging.

[Syn]

the only things left to chance are those which make no odds.

Poetic imo.

[Özim]

So they don't do it because they support one team or the other, they do it to maximise revenue. So why would they suddenly stop doing that at the latter stages? It's all about the money. Anyway, we were never winning this. Even if we beat Milan and end up getting through to the final there are plenty of refs who can guarantee the desired outcome - as we have seen time and again in the past. Whole thing is rigged from top to bottom, teh only things left to chance are those which make no odds.

That's the big clubs fault though (including ourselves), they want to make sure they get to the latter stages for financial reasons, as for winning it well there's much better sides than us, Barca and Real are just two teams who are miles ahead of us and the best team should win the competition at the end of the day.

If we didn't settle for 4th place all the time we might actually have an outside chance, but hey ho it's not meant to be.

[Niall_Quinn]

That's the big clubs fault though (including ourselves), they want to make sure they get to the latter stages for financial reasons, as for winning it well there's much better sides than us, Barca and Real are just two teams who are miles ahead of us and the best team should win the competition at the end of the day.

If we didn't settle for 4th place all the time we might actually have an outside chance, but hey ho it's not meant to be.

Your face is the reason we have so much corruption in sport.

[Özim]

Your face is the reason we have so much corruption in sport.

Well I didn't want to say, but yes there is that as well