he doesn't deserve one cos he always said he wanted to go to Barca. Was never fully committed to us, pined for Barca for years, refused to play for us, shite captain, a cunt, didn't tell his gay boys at Barca to stfu and probably encouraged when he went thereTake your pick.Originally Posted by dazthegooner
He always said he would always end up back at Barca so its not like he lied to us and it isn't his fault the way Barca conduct there transfer business!
Though he did speak very highly of you!
no he didn't, he thought Ach was a dick like the rest of us.
He's not an Arsenal legend but I always thought he gave his best for us and was with us longer than he might have been given he always made it clear he'd go back to Barca at some point. I've got no issue with him.
Thats it hold back what you really feel
Does he also admit to being a greasy rentboy?
Because, overall, I don’t think he did anything special for the club given what the club did for him. He didn’t give us any of his best years - he had barely turned 24 by the time he left. The club was used as a stepping stone and he left as soon as he could (given his only preference was Barcelona). By all accounts he wanted to leave the season before and his last season here was filled with apathetic performances and a complete lack of leadership in sharp contrast to the season before. and in sharp contrast to what Van Persie is doing now. There have been articles which highlight the lengths Van Persie (and his wife, apparently) are going to keep the players unified. I don’t think much of Cesc's character or leadership to the club not to tell Barca to cool it with the tapping up. Wenger made it clear he was frustrated with Barca’s behaviour, it was disrupting the club, and Cesc continued to say nothing whilst Barca players kept creating a stir.
I don’t blame Cesc for going - that’s what modern footballers are like and you can't expect a non-Arsenal fan to stay loyal to the club when a much better club wants him - but he did nothing special or selfless for the club. It worked out as a business deal for both parties. Shake hands, move on. Just another player.
Why are some heroes talking about booing him anyway? He'll be holed up in some exec box. MOTD will cut to his face for a few seconds. Unless we're booing our TVs?
Cesc won't be invited back in 25 years when the club celebrates it's 150th birthday, put it that way.
However I don't feel any biterness towards him, sure he could have been a bit more professional last year instead of day-dreaming about Barca but he is only human, he obviously felt bogged down by the direction the club was heading in - we all felt like that.
I'm not going to sing his name or boo him. He was a good player for us and really fought for our cause at times, but he was never an Arsenal man, therefore I don't feel much of a connection or rapport with him.
Last edited by Marc Overmars; 21-12-2011 at 03:01 PM.
He wasn't a good captain but that's not his fault, Wenger's been notoriously poor at choosing captains.
Can't fault his efforts otherwise and while his goalscoring stats in his last season were poor he made a lot of assists and I never felt he was giving less than 100%
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