Our lack of quality in central midfield

[LDG]

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[Xhaka Can’t]

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Check the post above yours and it's the sort of argument being made for Denilson years back as if his role was essential to defensive stability. If that's what we needed, we'd be better off playing Coquelin and Song. That's more pace and power. Last season, JW player where Arteta played and was our stand out player. Never neglected his defensive duties but very good at keeping the ball moving. Great ball retention skills and distribution. Never took a back seat in games. Just saying it's possible to have a someone playing inbetween the DM and attacking midfield player and yet still stamp his authority in a game and be influential.

Problem with Denilson IMHO, he was Lazy, he never like to track back or even if he made a mistake, he not look to take the blame. Passing he was excellent and was our best passer after cesc imo. He could have been a good player if he took his opportunites when given them. Mikel A Grafts at least, he puts the work in, creactive he is not and he never was going to be the new cesc. Like DB said he is a rare stop gap signing nothing more.

I do agree him and ramsey don't do well together and the sooner Jack comes back the better, problem is it could take jack till march to get to full fitness and where could we be by then.

[selassie]

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[Boss]

Creativity of our midfield is pretty poor. IMO of the regular three (Song-Ramsey-Arteta) Song is probably our best playmaker and that's saying a lot about the other two given that he's supposed to be the defensive minded player. Thankfully our AMs (Gervinho/Walcott etc) create enough but as they can't finish we really need the midfield to step up.

Arteta was an okay signing, decent if he was brought in alongside a 'star' midfield man (to replace someone like Diaby/Rosicky) but poor given that he was brought in by himself to play in CM (don't really consider Benayoun a central midfielder). He keeps things steady but rarely will change a game and is as someone said effectively a glorified Denilson (albeit a lot more hardworking). We'll win nothing with Arteta in midfield.

Although I can't wait for Wilshere to come back I think he's been overhyped in the extreme since being injured, his general play was usually exceptional for us but end product was poor. Ultimately think we need a star man in midfield as well as up front, and a signing to tide us over while the defensive injuries heal.

[Power n Glory]

Coquelin is a talent no doubt, but think of the outcry if he had been used from the off, and it had failed. Fans would be screaming blue murder at Wenger for not spending.

We've been berrating the bloke for years for not adding experience, premier league experience at that, and to stop trusting in youth coming good.

Arteta has bags of experience. Has helped steady the ship, and made us more of a team. Nobody is saying he's fucking mega. Nobody is giving him praise beyond that which is rightly deserved. Everyone is just saying that he is doing a job which no other cunt as been doing for us for a long time.

There is nothing wrong with what he is doing, or for that matter, anything wrong with the way we looked to plug gaps after leaking football diarrhea for 6 months.

People say Wenger is stupid. He's not. He's a stubborn old cunt, who rolls the dice too many times. This time he didn't. He bought experience we desperately needed. The sooner people stop looking to be spoiled rotten with megastar signings the better in my opinion.

I'm looking forward to Wilshere's return, to see what this midfield can do with someone more suited to the playmaker role than Ramsey, who will be better rotating with Arteta.

You have a point with that one. But the when we sold Cesc, we were all waiting to hear about the next creative midfield player we'd sign. We haven't done that with Arteta. We're really struggling to get goals and create chances from the middle and as someone said, Song is probably our best playmaker. I wouldn't mind seeing a reshuffle in the middle. Let Arteta play ahead of Ramsey and Ramsey play deeper. See how it works.

[Power n Glory]

Creativity of our midfield is pretty poor. IMO of the regular three (Song-Ramsey-Arteta) Song is probably our best playmaker and that's saying a lot about the other two given that he's supposed to be the defensive minded player. Thankfully our AMs (Gervinho/Walcott etc) create enough but as they can't finish we really need the midfield to step up.

Arteta was an okay signing, decent if he was brought in alongside a 'star' midfield man (to replace someone like Diaby/Rosicky) but poor given that he was brought in by himself to play in CM (don't really consider Benayoun a central midfielder). He keeps things steady but rarely will change a game and is as someone said effectively a glorified Denilson (albeit a lot more hardworking). We'll win nothing with Arteta in midfield.

Although I can't wait for Wilshere to come back I think he's been overhyped in the extreme since being injured, his general play was usually exceptional for us but end product was poor. Ultimately think we need a star man in midfield as well as up front, and a signing to tide us over while the defensive injuries heal.

[Niall_Quinn]

You have a point with that one. But the when we sold Cesc, we were all waiting to hear about the next creative midfield player we'd sign. We haven't done that with Arteta. We're really struggling to get goals and create chances from the middle and as someone said, Song is probably our best playmaker. I wouldn't mind seeing a reshuffle in the middle. Let Arteta play ahead of Ramsey and Ramsey play deeper. See how it works.

Not true in all cases, a lot were saying we needed to play a different system that eradicated the Cesc role or at least the over-reliance on that role.

[LDG]

Yup. Me included.

What I wanted was more width and directness, rather than trying to walk the ball in.

To a degree we've got that, with a more stable midfield trio, capable of defending as a team too....

Problem we have, is that Gerv and Walcott are so woefully off form, and we have no fullbacks....so the whole width thing ain't looking as good, as it was earlier in the season....