Match reacton thread Vs Swansea

[fakeyank]

tbh, he shouldn't be listening to internet twats who wouldn't have the foggiest clue what is involved in running a Premiershihp club. Some of his decisions are baffling but I'm not sure he should be looking here for advice.

Well its better than looking into his brain. Thats clearly not working at all! Might as well try the MB's.. cant be worse than the shit he has in his head!

[Boss]

Letters

[Marc Overmars]

We are gathered here today to mourn the passing of our dear friend Letters.

[Flavs]

And you can piss off as well. All you do is WUM and then try to ban people. Contribute something worthwhile to the discussion or just go to bed.

[Letters]

I took option b and went to bed.

Oh the ironing of people complaining about my posting doing nothing but being personal and abusive. That's good, constructive posting is it? Roffle.

[Flavs]

I took option b and went to bed.

Oh the ironing of people complaining about my posting doing nothing but being personal and abusive. That's good, constructive posting is it? Roffle.

Shut it fatty

[Letters]

It's cake retention

[Kano]

Theo and Arshavin play important roles but it's not why we're losing games. Poor defending and losing control of the middle of the park has cost us dearly. The centre and defence are real problem areas.

the fb situation is killing us. we have players being dragged out of their positions from the centre of defence and central midfield trying to help out and leaving massive gaps everywhere. i thought miguel was awful on sunday (of course he's not a left back i know) but the space behind him and dj was shocking. and the opposition know it, the 3rd goal game down his side and both against fulham. so we had kos and the bfg covering areas they shouldn't be, song trying to do everything and ramsey? well. he had an absolute shocker, he's worst of the season and he's been deteriorating game on game.

[Niall_Quinn]

Theo and Arshavin play important roles but it's not why we're losing games. Poor defending and losing control of the middle of the park has cost us dearly. The centre and defence are real problem areas. See, Arshavin and Theo can have performances like that did against Swansea for the majority of the game, but the one moment they get right that leads to goals should be enough to get us all three points if we can defend the lead.

In the final third we are poor because we have Gervinho, Walcott or Ramsey always finding themselves in the position to deliver but they fail because they don't have the skill for it. Play someone in that position that can can deliver and he'll make the right choice and excute the right sort of pass. There is a reason why Song bombs forward so often. When he gets into that position he can delivery. Not all the time but at a more consistent rate than the other bozos I mentioned. BUT, he's a defensive midfielder and how often can be get into those positions?

It's the same for Walcott and Arshavin. How many times will we see situations where Walcott gets a ball player into space and he's playing off the shoulder of a defender. How many times do we get to see Arshavin drift into a more central position to play in a nice through ball? Playing from the left means he needs to drift in and that means leaving the left back exposed and Miquel was exposed badly the other day. If we're bad in the final third then we should be looking to get our better passers into position where they can be more influential. Arshavin would be more effective in the centre and wing play is more demanding than a central role behind the striker. Well, stamina wise.

Wenger has played these guys in the same position for years and it hasn't worked. He should try something else or bench them and that's his call to make. That's why a lay a lot of the blame on him. We're not coaches over here but we watch enough of our team and know enough to see that where they are playing isn't working. He didn't have to start them either. Ox or Henry could have played and that's why I'm going to lay a lot of the blame on him. It's been 7 years now. He picks the teams and plays them there. He chose to buy Gervinho. You mentioned Sessegnon you the other day and I've been a fan of his since seeing him play in the Emirates cup. Wenger must have known about that guy but he chose to stick with what we have. That guy wouldn't have cost millions in transfer fee or wages.

I just can't excuse Wenger for these sort of decisions. We've been through many different players and this is like his 5th team since the invincibles. It's the same trademark in every team. We lost against newly promoted Hull on one season and I can't remember which team it was but I remember Toure getting done over by some newly promoted team as well. That was 5 or 6 years ago and the team has had a face lift and Botox since then. But it's the same shit. Same problems and you have to start looking at the constants.

We've had these problems before Theo and Arshavin arrived and if I remember correctly it's been around this sort of time we've been struggling in the league and had to buy both players just to help us qualify for a Champs League spot. It's Wenger.

When was the last time an Arsenal team was equipped to defend a lead? We haven't been doing that since the days of Adams and Co, and even then we often had to score a few to ensure the win. Defending leads is important, no doubt. Scoring goals is even more important though. You're giving Arshavin and Theo a free ride here, claiming it's okay for them to play a few minutes out of the 90 and disappear for the rest because provided they get a goal between them or set one up it should then fall to the defence to hold the lead. Well yes, that's the defence's job but wouldn't it make it easier for them if Theo and Arshavin could play for 90 minutes and maybe make or score a couple of goals?

Arshavin is supposed to be one of the world's talents. Theo a bright up and coming England star (how many years now?) Suppose the formation is wrong, suppose the tactics stink. None of that explains the inefficiencies of these two players when they eventually make it into advantageous positions in the opposition's third. It's their poor decision making, their lack of care and consistency that costs us. Not just them, others are guilty too. But they repeatedly stand out.

The defence is decimated by injuries. Whether this is a legitimate excuse or not is debatable. Should we really have three lefts backs and three right backs in the squad? Can we afford that in terms of a limited number of places on the roster? We could argue about it all day long, but what's Theo's and Arshavin's excuse? They are first team players, they aren't injured, they get repeated chances to perform. Where are they?

We can crucify Ramsey, moan about Arteta, say they can't control the middle like we used to. But they do actually perform their job at least some of the time, they do win the possession, they do distribute the ball. Who are they giving it to though? For me that's the big problem.

It's pretty damn sad when a totally inexperienced kid from the lower leagues can come in and be more effective than Walcott on the wing. Move Theo into the centre and here's what you get:

Theo

As usual.

Where we are at the moment is either relying on van Persie to score twice in every game or for the defence to keep a clean sheet every match. That's because other players aren't contributing or they are contributing way too little. I'm fine with changing the formation and the tactics. No problem with that and I even agree Wenger is one dimensional. But that's the nature of the team we have. We are supposed to be relying on talent and intelligence on the pitch. Our whole game used to be keep the ball, move it, wear the opponent down and out. Score more goals than them. We have a team that's (supposedly) geared towards that style of play. But the quality has dropped alarmingly through lack of investment and theft of the resources by the board. If Wenger was wrong to hold on to the money the cunts on the board were sure as hell wrong to stick it all in their pockets and do a runner. If you want to play various formations and variable tactics then perhaps we need a new manager, but we need a new team too don't forget.

[LDG]

When was the last time an Arsenal team was equipped to defend a lead? We haven't been doing that since the days of Adams and Co, and even then we often had to score a few to ensure the win. Defending leads is important, no doubt. Scoring goals is even more important though. You're giving Arshavin and Theo a free ride here, claiming it's okay for them to play a few minutes out of the 90 and disappear for the rest because provided they get a goal between them or set one up it should then fall to the defence to hold the lead. Well yes, that's the defence's job but wouldn't it make it easier for them if Theo and Arshavin could play for 90 minutes and maybe make or score a couple of goals?

Arshavin is supposed to be one of the world's talents. Theo a bright up and coming England star (how many years now?) Suppose the formation is wrong, suppose the tactics stink. None of that explains the inefficiencies of these two players when they eventually make it into advantageous positions in the opposition's third. It's their poor decision making, their lack of care and consistency that costs us. Not just them, others are guilty too. But they repeatedly stand out.

The defence is decimated by injuries. Whether this is a legitimate excuse or not is debatable. Should we really have three lefts backs and three right backs in the squad? Can we afford that in terms of a limited number of places on the roster? We could argue about it all day long, but what's Theo's and Arshavin's excuse? They are first team players, they aren't injured, they get repeated chances to perform. Where are they?

We can crucify Ramsey, moan about Arteta, say they can't control the middle like we used to. But they do actually perform their job at least some of the time, they do win the possession, they do distribute the ball. Who are they giving it to though? For me that's the big problem.

It's pretty damn sad when a totally inexperienced kid from the lower leagues can come in and be more effective than Walcott on the wing. Move Theo into the centre and here's what you get:

Theo

As usual.

Where we are at the moment is either relying on van Persie to score twice in every game or for the defence to keep a clean sheet every match. That's because other players aren't contributing or they are contributing way too little. I'm fine with changing the formation and the tactics. No problem with that and I even agree Wenger is one dimensional. But that's the nature of the team we have. We are supposed to be relying on talent and intelligence on the pitch. Our whole game used to be keep the ball, move it, wear the opponent down and out. Score more goals than them. We have a team that's (supposedly) geared towards that style of play. But the quality has dropped alarmingly through lack of investment and theft of the resources by the board. If Wenger was wrong to hold on to the money the cunts on the board were sure as hell wrong to stick it all in their pockets and do a runner. If you want to play various formations and variable tactics then perhaps we need a new manager, but we need a new team too don't forget.

Awesome post.