Arsenal on the slide?

[Özim]

Its not about the suit, its about the approach to the game. If you think our approach was right - them you must be on crack. The faces of the players spoke of how they had been humbled by a far poorer team, and undone by a schoolboy error. For real evidence of how much of a fuck they gave, look at their subsequent performances...

Exactly, it's not about the suit at all.

[Özim]

what you wear does not reflect your approach, thats an old school ideal. we know nothing of our approach to it only what we want to believe was the attitude. the mistake in the game wasnt due to that but the ongoing defensive problems.

i didnt know there are specific faces for losing to different types of team, i thought you were either disappointed or happy.

how much of a fuck they gave doesnt reflect on the next games, if that was the case then every player for the past 7 years falls under that banner, including some of our previous 'greats'.

Couldn't disagree more, it's a special occasion and everything you do matters...if you can't be bothered and think that walking around in your tracksuit is good enough clearly you don't really care that much.

As I said before it reflects our poor attitude and discipline.

[Kano]

if you live a few decades back then yes

[Özim]

if you live a few decades back then yes

Not at all, you make an effort for special occasions...I wouldn't turn up to someone's wedding in a T-shirt and that's nothing to do with living a few decades back.

If you don't give a sh*t and lack any respect then yeah, you turn up in trackusits.

[Kano]

how is that a comparison, players change into their work outfits, do you for a wedding

[Özim]

how is that a comparison, players change into their work outfits, do you for a wedding

It's not just another work day, it's a special occasion. It's a bit like meeting all the top bosses of your company, would you turn up in a tracksuit and t-shirt?

The point is you prepare and dress for the occasion, it shows you know it matters and are focussed on what is a big game.

[Kano]

dear me

[Özim]

You can deny it all you like, but IMO it's a reflection of our casual attitude and we all know what happened...the hungrier team won.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

looking like it in hindsight, i bet a suit wouldnt have been credited for winning

perception is a funny thing

it sure didnt look underneath them at the final whistle with their reactions

They were upset because they got undone by a worse theam then them.

end of the day it was a bit of karma that we lost. We have been disrepecting the competiton for a long time. until we respect touraments we won't win them end of.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Its about what wearing the suit represents. Is shows how we are poud to be a part of the final and the exprience. We not turn up to the fa cup or CL final in tracksuits so why do it in another cup final because our players don't rate it.

Like zim said AW is far too relaxed when it comes to these lot and it needs to changed. Treat them like Men not spoilt kids who get what they want.