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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    Europa League is a worthless competition, wouldn't want us in it at all. Of course it looks quite likely we'll be playing in it next season unless we (hopefully) fuck up the qualifiers.

    You have to play more overall games than you would in the CL, which fucks up your overall league 'challenge' (in our case, the battle for 4th) and it's also a lot more tiring on the squad given it starts earlier and away trips mean travels to the middle of nowhere for games. Also very unlikely we'd win it.

    Waste of time imo.

    As for attracting players, we'll always be able to do that even if we dropped out of European football completely. Top players want to play in the CL, the Europa League is hardly a positive compared to no European footy at all.
    1 will we be challenging for the league next season ?
    2 it would suck to have to do that whole sunday/Thursday thing.

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    Would rather be in the Europa League then not be in Europe at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    Europa League is a worthless competition, wouldn't want us in it at all. Of course it looks quite likely we'll be playing in it next season unless we (hopefully) fuck up the qualifiers.

    You have to play more overall games than you would in the CL, which fucks up your overall league 'challenge' (in our case, the battle for 4th) and it's also a lot more tiring on the squad given it starts earlier and away trips mean travels to the middle of nowhere for games. Also very unlikely we'd win it.

    Waste of time imo.

    As for attracting players, we'll always be able to do that even if we dropped out of European football completely. Top players want to play in the CL, the Europa League is hardly a positive compared to no European footy at all.
    Actually if we had been in the Europa League this season compared to what games we have played in the Champions League, we would have played the same amount of games. It's only the Round of 32 that the Europa League has that the Champions League doesn't (assuming we would only finish fourth at best).

    Also, towards the end of the group games in Europe you could possibly play on Wednesday. Far too much is,made of it being Thursday/Sunday anyway. How is it any different from maybe having to play on a Wednesday and then again on a Saturday? We've had long gaps between games recently and we still haven't been performing well.

    We're not going to 'attract' players because we don't really ever try. And if it was the case they're going to say 'no chance, you're not in the Champions League' then I guess we should probably try to get those players now.

    If you want us back in the Champions League and you want us to conceivably do well in it, then not being in the Europa League isn't going to help that - our coefficient will suffer and thus the likeliness of going out of the Champions League group stage would be increased.

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    IMO not being in the Europa League next year would give us a better chance of finishing top 4 as we wouldn't have the burden of the extra games. And, frankly, I struggle to get excited about the early stages of the CL, I certainly couldn't get excited about us being in the Europa League until maybe near the end if we got there.
    In brief: Meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    IMO not being in the Europa League next year would give us a better chance of finishing top 4 as we wouldn't have the burden of the extra games. And, frankly, I struggle to get excited about the early stages of the CL, I certainly couldn't get excited about us being in the Europa League until maybe near the end if we got there.
    In brief: Meh.
    Like I said, it's possibly an extra two games. And they wouldn't even come in to consideration until February/March. Your excitement or lackthereof is a personal thing so I can't really say anything against it but that also doesn't really have much relevance for Arsenal; the team, that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Unless we invest seriously this summer ( ) RvP would be an idiot to sign a new contract with us.

    Year after year we've replaced quality with average players, we can't keep on getting away with it. If and when he goes we'll be in mid-table. It's sad.
    Then he really should have demamded to go in the summer, im sure Wenger has sat him down and explained to him whats going on at the club and what is likely to happen in the next few seasons. IMO he will go because he will want to win big trophies which won't be won with us and wenger will let him like cesc last season.

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    I just want us to be in it cos of

    1 - we wont play our first team in it, probably the youngsters and far more easier for me to go support them than it is the waste of space First Team Pub Teamers

    2 - Watch more games if we're in it than if we're not

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    Like I said, it's possibly an extra two games. And they wouldn't even come in to consideration until February/March. Your excitement or lackthereof is a personal thing so I can't really say anything against it but that also doesn't really have much relevance for Arsenal; the team, that is.
    do you really want to watch us taken on some shite team from uzbekistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    do you really want to watch us taken on some shite team from uzbekistan
    Well they're the team I support so I am going to watch us regardless of who we play. I think you're missing the point anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    Well they're the team I support so I am going to watch us regardless of who we play. I think you're missing the point anyway.
    I suppose at least we win 6-0, 6-0 every week

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