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    that 100 million quote should be given more context i think

    “Danny and I had dinner with Arsène in June,” PHW said. “Danny said, ‘What would you do if I gave you £100 million to spend?’ and Arsène said, ‘I would give it back to you.’ He has an economics degree from Strasbourg University and understands these things better than the board. He doesn’t want the club to go bankrupt.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner View Post
    Wonderful non sequitur: I was responding to comments about taking Wenger out of the financial analysis of players. and you respond with a quote from Wenger based on his continued involvement in that financial analysis.
    You have dodged the issue -- and made a grossly ridiculous glib remark of the reasoned argument most posters are making in this thread by suggesting wenger will choose players will-nilly just like the ordinary fan would if he out of the loop reharding the finances of the club. That is utter bull.

    Hence my retort that wenger has made it clear he doesn't care for spending whether he has the money or not.
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    that 100 million quote should be given more context i think
    That wasn't the question asked? Was it? Who said spending that 100 million will make the club in question go bankrupt? And which sensible manager would if it will make their club go bankrupt?
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner View Post
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    The...? Come on man, don't leave us hanging!

    You're right inasmuch as £250m would make no sense on a cost to revenue basis.
    But there is an argument that football clubs should be run to make people happy, not to make money.

    Signing Messi for £250m would make people deliriously happy, until the financial shit hit the fan that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    That wasn't the question asked? Was it? Who said spending that 100 million will make the club in question go bankrupt? And which manager would if it will make their club go bankrupt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    Cripps on fire!
    7 months of pent up frustrations does that.

    Is it pent or vent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann View Post
    The...? Come on man, don't leave us hanging!

    You're right inasmuch as £250m would make no sense on a cost to revenue basis.
    But there is an argument that football clubs should be run to make people happy, not to make money.

    Signing Messi for £250m would make people deliriously happy, until the financial shit hit the fan that is.
    Which is why having deep pockets is awesome, from the fans point of view. Not sure why more fans aren't calling for it tbh. Running football clubs like corporations stinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner View Post
    This was your "question": Would you be surprised if messi went for 250million?

    I merely took that as if it were Arsenal who paid that sort of money.
    That question was in response to another question asking whether ronaldo was worth 80mill. That was all.
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    That wasn't the question asked? Was it? Who said spending that 100 million will make the club in question go bankrupt? And which sensible manager would if it will make their club go bankrupt?
    The short term pressures of footie have caused plenty of managers to gamble, crashing out of the league. Liverpool would have been in a lot of trouble if it weren't for the new owners...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    The short term pressures of footie have caused plenty of managers to gamble, crashing out of the league. Liverpool would have been in a lot of trouble if it weren't for the new owners...
    So would Man U; Barca, Real, etc. But they are still around.

    And so would some of the biggest companies in the world. But there is a sensible and balanced way of going about it. And that is what most posters in this thread have been arguing.
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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