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    i actually think fab should be applauded for his honesty in wanting away. we all knew it when he joined that the day would come and he was always very quick previously to run out and deny press speculation about him.

    its far better for him not to say he wants to stay when we all know he always wanted to go back and i think handing in a transfer request would ruin how fans view him.

    the barca cunts needed no assistance in their marketing campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner View Post
    Better than what? DO you seriously believe that everything that has happened over the last two years has not been approved and orchestrated by Fabregas? The past two years could have been avoided by Fabregas doing one of two things:
    (a) Publicly saying that he wanted to stay at Arsenal; or
    (b) Putting in an official transfer request.

    He does not do the latter because it will hurt him financially. So he plays the outside pressure game using others to talk about his Barcelona DNA, etc.
    We all know he wants to go to Barca at some point, yes? It's bleeding obvious to all and sundry, and to say otherwise would make him look like a dick in all honesty. All Arsenal fans know he wants to go there, and most Arsenal fans will not deny him that chance at some point.

    But he has stated on many occasion that he wants to win something with Arsenal. He is our captain afterall, and it really is a matter of when the time comes.

    The bullshit from his Barca mates is partly a ribbing at Cescs expense. It's banter.

    What we do know if that Barca cannot afford him right now.

    Cesc signed the contract, and I believe he will play, as last season, for his current club, and in a professional manner, unless the club want to sell him, and if the right offer is made.

    I don't think he desperately despises Arsenal. I think he loves the club and is one of the few who respect it. But he has two teams in his heart, and if he's honest about that, which he has been, I'm ok with that. There is no politics being played from his angle, because he knows the score, and will continue to play for us until a deal is on the table which reflects his value. And I really don't think he has a problem with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    We all know he wants to go to Barca at some point, yes? It's bleeding obvious to all and sundry, and to say otherwise would make him look like a dick in all honesty. All Arsenal fans know he wants to go there, and most Arsenal fans will not deny him that chance at some point.

    But he has stated on many occasion that he wants to win something with Arsenal. He is our captain afterall, and it really is a matter of when the time comes.

    The bullshit from his Barca mates is partly a ribbing at Cescs expense. It's banter.

    What we do know if that Barca cannot afford him right now.

    Cesc signed the contract, and I believe he will play, as last season, for his current club, and in a professional manner, unless the club want to sell him, and if the right offer is made.

    I don't think he desperately despises Arsenal. I think he loves the club and is one of the few who respect it. But he has two teams in his heart, and if he's honest about that, which he has been, I'm ok with that. There is no politics being played from his angle, because he knows the score, and will continue to play for us until a deal is on the table which reflects his value. And I really don't think he has a problem with it.
    Cesc Fábregas has admitted he feels frustrated at Arsenal, but insists he will not press for a summer transfer to Barcelona.

    On Tuesday his Arsenal team-mate Bacary Sagna claimed Fábregas had decided to seek a return to the Catalan club where he came through the youth system before moving to London in 2003. However Fábregas has insisted that he will not agitate for a transfer.

    Fábregas said: "Barcelona are the best team in the world and going there guarantees titles. But I owe myself to Arsenal.

    "Any player who says he is not frustrated at not winning titles is lying. I am ambitious. [But] I have not spoken to the manager. He is the boss, he takes decisions and I don't know if they want to sell me or not.

    "I have values and after all that I have done in eight years here I am not going to say a word that would ruin everything. I have always acted with discretion.

    "Everyone sees things in a different way but in these [sorts of] decisions, not everything depends on the player. If I said anything else it would be a lie, it would give rise to speculation that is not true.

    "I am very happy at Arsenal. I am not going to talk about any team – but I can't say no to anyone because you never know what could happen in the future."

    Barça have tried and failed to sign their former player in each of the last two summer transfer windows.

    I've never done an "I told you so".

    I told you so.
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    It's a good job no-one has been criticising Cesc as disloyal then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    I've never done an "I told you so".

    I told you so.
    You do realise that Fabregas will lose his sign-on fee if he puts in an official transfer request? Depending on the size of the transfer fee, that figure would be in excess of 2 million.

    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    "I have values and after all that I have done in eight years here I am not going to say a word that would ruin everything. I have always acted with discretion.
    Exactly how would putting in an official transfer request "ruin everything"? Want to have a stab at defining "acted with discretion"?
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    Mate, he's talking about media bullshit, being misquoted etc etc.

    I.e. He loves the club, and doesn't want to tittle-tattle to ruin the relationship he has with the club and it's fans. And that anything that goes on regarding his transfer* will be carried out behind closed doors and not through the media.

    EDIT:* I shold say possible transfer / future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    We all know he wants to go to Barca at some point, yes? It's bleeding obvious to all and sundry, and to say otherwise would make him look like a dick in all honesty. All Arsenal fans know he wants to go there, and most Arsenal fans will not deny him that chance at some point.

    But he has stated on many occasion that he wants to win something with Arsenal. He is our captain afterall, and it really is a matter of when the time comes.

    The bullshit from his Barca mates is partly a ribbing at Cescs expense. It's banter.

    What we do know if that Barca cannot afford him right now.

    Cesc signed the contract, and I believe he will play, as last season, for his current club, and in a professional manner, unless the club want to sell him, and if the right offer is made.

    I don't think he desperately despises Arsenal. I think he loves the club and is one of the few who respect it. But he has two teams in his heart, and if he's honest about that, which he has been, I'm ok with that. There is no politics being played from his angle, because he knows the score, and will continue to play for us until a deal is on the table which reflects his value. And I really don't think he has a problem with it.
    I do not, for a moment, think that he despises Arsenal.

    Banter!! What B.S. One or two instances is okay but an 18 month long stream of "He has Barca DNA", "They should let him go", etc., is not banter, it is part of an overall strategy. A strategy that seems to be working because you are quite happily buying the party line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coney View Post
    It's a good job no-one has been criticising Cesc as disloyal then.
    I'd prefer Fabregas to wear a Barcelona shirt and weep yearningly over pictures of Pique. Xavi and Iniesta on the pitch while also playing well and scoring some goals for Arsenal. He could also dedicate each goal to Pep and pull up his shirt to reveal a message reading "please rescue me from Wenger and the shitness of Bendtner". As long as he's puttng in some effort though, I wouldn't care how disloyal he's been. I'd choose that over some lame soundbites.
    Last edited by Master Splinter; 15-06-2011 at 01:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Splinter View Post
    I'd prefer Fabregas to wear a Barcelona shirt and weep yearningly over pictures of Pique. Xavi and Iniesta on the pitch while also playing well and scoring some goals for Arsenal. He coould also dedicate each goal to Pep and pull up his shirt to reveal a message reading "please rescue me from Wenger and the shitness of Bendtner". As long as he's puttng in some effort though, I wouldn't care how disloyal he's been. I'd choose that over some lame soundbites.
    Part of his dream is about to come true then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner View Post
    I do not, for a moment, think that he despises Arsenal.

    Banter!! What B.S. One or two instances is okay but an 18 month long stream of "He has Barca DNA", "They should let him go", etc., is not banter, it is part of an overall strategy. A strategy that seems to be working because you are quite happily buying the party line.
    At what point has any of the "banter" upset either Arsenal as a club, unsettled the player, or caused Wenger any concern?? It has no bearing on anything. The quotes are B.S., dude.

    It has upset Arsenal fans. But it affects the club very little. And it doesn't affect Fabregas, because he has stated his intentions on more than one occassion. Yes he'd like to play for Barca, but also that he loves Arsenal, is happy there (maybe a bit frustrated) but wants also to win trophies with us....it's not up for debate!

    As for buying the party line?? Eh?? I hate Barca. I have little respect for any player, Barca, Arsenal, Utd...anyone....who mouths off to the media. But I don't buy it, because it doesn't matter.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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