Goodbye Sanga?

[Özim]

we tied him down to a five year contract two years ago. we had more urgent things to deal with this summer then some **** who wants more money. how can you moan about the club not tieing plaeyrs down when they had given a player a five year contract and he wanted a new one a year into it when his agent fucked up

Urgent things...what you mean like selling of two of our first teamers?

Fact is if we want to hold onto players we need to start contract talks early, experience should tell us that. Start with a year or two left and you're already in trouble....those are the hard facts.

If we want to keep hold of players we should be negotiating with them with 2 to 3 years left on their contracts to make sure we don't lose them.

Had we done with others, we'd have a) got a lot more money or b) not sold them.

This summer really takes the biscuit for me, it appears on the face of it that they planned to make a few signings to make sure season tickets etc are sold, once done they sell off two players and make sure we make a tidy profit. F*cking sickening to be honest.

[Letters]

So if Wenger says something it's because someone asked him the question

As ever you twist and shift goalposts, desperate for any way of attacking Wenger. I bet you hated our win on Sunday.
The pretty clear difference, and you know this of course, is that Wenger isn't saying negative things.
He comes out with some shit, I'll give you that, but at least it's positive shit about out players.
There's nothing wrong with what Sagna said in the sense that he's obviously right. Whether he needs to express it so publicly though, I don't see how that helps us.

[Özim]

As ever you twist and shift goalposts, desperate for any way of attacking Wenger. I bet you hated our win on Sunday.
The pretty clear difference, and you know this of course, is that Wenger isn't saying negative things.
He comes out with some shit, I'll give you that, but at least it's positive shit about out players.
There's nothing wrong with what Sagna said in the sense that he's obviously right. Whether he needs to express it so publicly though, I don't see how that helps us.

I'm not twisting anything, people defend Wenger all the time when he makes comments (even if they're are stupid and ridiculous), but players aren't allowed to voice what are genuine opinions on the direction of the club.

Maybe the problem is that the club just don't give a damn about what the players or the fans think and that may well be the reason we lose so many players, he may well have said it out of frustration at the club never changing things. I don't really see how this changes anything or is negative to be honest, he's stating the obvious, everyone knows what he says is true.

We need a change and the more people that voice their concerns about it the better IMO, most fans seem to scared to do anything.

[GP]

If I publicly criticised the company I work for I'm pretty sure they'd call that gross misconduct and I'd soon find myself on the dole.

It makes no difference if what Sagna has said is true or not. He should keep his bitch mouth shut.

[Letters]

We need a change and the more people that voice their concerns about it the better IMO, most fans seem to scared to do anything.

What do you think the fans should do?

[bignev]

Well yes Sagna probably should have kept quiet but this is a footballer. They are generally stupid.

The vitriol on here is way over the top.

Maybe what Wenger needs is someone close to him (ie. in his team) to actually force this point home. RVP said the same thing.

Perhaps Wenger will finally get the message that top 4 is not enough.

[Kano]

i think when the clubs owners have so blatantly shown disrespect for the fans and pissed away any sort of integrity left, then i don't think it makes a difference what a player says. the message from the very top is exactly the same.

the players are ****s. football owners are ****s. let them all fuck each other over and if people want to pay to see the results of that every week, then go for it.

[jelgoon]

You're right to a certain extent. Problem is that he's absolutely right in what he's saying. Whatever people think on here, a lot of top players like RVP and Sagna do want success as much as money (and we are no longer a successful club.

Because they are paid a fortune to shut their pie hole and get on with the job. We are paid fucking peanuts which we then have to throw at these players in the hope we'll distract them from moving to another club. Why are all the rules in the favour of players? They want normal employment conditions even though their job is completely abnormal, but they don't want all those conditions, just the good shit. If you gave a negative interview to the local paper about your firm you'd be in the manager's office and he'd have grounds to kick you out the door. Good luck trying to sack Sagna, he'd be even richer if those sort of normal conditions really applied. He might be right, he might be wrong, most likely somewhere in the middle and we all know this club is run by uber-shits. Why don't the players just shut up and get on with training/ recovery?

[Özim]

If I publicly criticised the company I work for I'm pretty sure they'd call that gross misconduct and I'd soon find myself on the dole.

It makes no difference if what Sagna has said is true or not. He should keep his bitch mouth shut.

Depends on whether you make them a lot of money, if you do they'll apologise to you.

He wasn't specifically criticising the club either, he was just said was just voicing concern.

[Özim]

What do you think the fans should do?

Voice their concerns more at the way things are being handled, if that doesn't work the only thing that would work would be not buying the tickets.

Whilst I don't really like the latter, maybe that's the only way the club will actually start listening, I don't like their untouchable attitude.