It's an interesting question. Fergie may realise that the players bring more value to the club than the manager, but what about 1 player?Originally Posted by Globalgunner
For instance, what would impact Man Utd more, losing Rooney or losing Ferguson?
It is not a question that Fergie himself struggles with but his decisions have been based on what he thinks is in the best interests of the club. He kept Rooney when losing him would have left the club with no marquee player but he dumped RVN, Beckham et al when he felt they were no longer indispensible. I think he would have loved to keep Ronnie but sometimes the players desires trump all rationale. However there is no doubt that over 26 years Fergie is united and united is fergie. Fergie himself does not obssess himself with this realisation. At Arsenal however our model is not based on ultimate achievement on the pitch but with sustainable achievement in the accounts department. It is a cop out however as evidence show s that our board love themselves more than they love the club. wenger too thinks he is worth 140k p/w but the best player at the club was offered just 130k
When has Wenger ever said he was worth that? He has not once said that, Of course if that is what he is getting paid he is not going to moan is he.
I find this interesting, cause over here(US),no Head Coach/Manager makes more than most of the players. Only really a few big names make really big salaries. Most squad players make more than coaches.
He probably is worth that (from board perspective) given he can deliver the same level no matter who is sold. The board are unlikely to get anybody else like that ever again - deliver on that level through player sales (many of them) and to still do it at a profitable club.
This is the rump of the argument and what gets the goat of many watching the goings on at this club. What is the definition of success, perpetual stagnation in 3/4th place w/o winning anything of note. Gazidis getting bonuses while players slip through his fingers each transfer window. Managers should not get paid more than players because players are in a small earnings window with no fall back position if they are injured. Should the coach at Miami heat get paid more than Lebron james?. Who are the fans coming to see, the coach or the players. If Wenger who continuously preaches restraint in spending doesnt think he is worth 140k pw, then why accept such a ludicrous salary. this is a man getting to 65 yrs with 1 child. what the hell is he saving the money for?. Footballers have to earn to keep themselves for 40 yrs after they retire but why Wenger,. Letters says he loves the club because he waves his hands a lot during games but he wont halve his own salary so that RVP can be paid 200k pw so who does he love. He is a second level manager being paid like a top level achiever. PHW says its nice to pocket a few millions but we miss out on Gary Cahill becuse wenger wont pay more than 6m, when 8m would have done the trick. The whole arsenal mangement setup is a scam and Wenger is central to it, the serial loser.
I don't think it's fair to say he is a second level manager. Yes he has his faults and we can all see them. However considering that every summer his best players get sold and he still manages to keep us in the top four positions is remarkable. There aren't many managers who could do it.
Also I don't think mentioning Gary Cahill helps your argument. We offered what he is worth and it wasn't accepted. Chelsea offered over his value and got him. If you want an example of a player we should have spent that little extra on you would have been better off mentioning Xabi Alonso. Apparently we were 2m off signing him from Liverpool.
A players worth is not sole ly determined by his contract status but by what he is worth to the team willing to buy him. take Cahill and Kosielny. Which of these two would you rather have and which did Arsenal pay more for?
I think 99% of people on here would rather have Koscielny.
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