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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    £20m or whatever we've offered is not bollocks because they still owe us money for Cesc and Song. If they value him at £30m, which seems to be the asking price for Liverpool, then £20m from us is the equivalent as they probably owe us £10m.
    True enough, but it could also mean that it's £20m in total, with us only looking to pay £10m cash after we've written off what they still owe us?

    Or there's this new theory going around, that we've agreed terms with the player in principal, but haven't got as far as thrashing out a fee with Barca yet? Who knows - sounds like these guys are just chucking every possibility out there at the moment, so they can claim that they were right if something happens...
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    Look, when papers are still speculating about prices and fees, we've already lost and too slow off the mark. It's not a good sign and reminds me of Higuain and Suarez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Look, when papers are still speculating about prices and fees, we've already lost and too slow off the mark. It's not a good sign and reminds me of Higuain and Suarez.
    By the time we get our act together someone else will have signed him if he's available, we're just too slow at doing business, if we really want a player we should just pay up and sign him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    True enough, but it could also mean that it's £20m in total, with us only looking to pay £10m cash after we've written off what they still owe us?

    Or there's this new theory going around, that we've agreed terms with the player in principal, but haven't got as far as thrashing out a fee with Barca yet? Who knows - sounds like these guys are just chucking every possibility out there at the moment, so they can claim that they were right if something happens...
    If we've made a bid of £20m it means we've offered £20m. If we wanted to make it a total of £20m we would have bid £10m.

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    Also, the reason we may have only offered 22 million is that it's all cash up front, because as we're all to painfully aware by now ....... we have a LOT of cash reserves, sitting gathering dust in a bank somewhere.

    Barca are going after Suarez and I don't think they're currently in a healthy position regarding cash (Spanish economy + Neymar debacle + poor season) so I suspect they may desperately need cash up front. 22 million in a one of cash injection may be more attractive than 30 million spread over the course of four years.

    Very clever on our part if true and it works.

    And even though I'm one of those of those that keeps complaining about lowball offers at the expense of us missing out, because it's Barca, part of me kind hopes we can fleece them off using our financial muscle. I still haven't forgiven those cunts for constantly lowballing us for our players, the worst of it for Cesc who we really should have got 50 million for but for him getting unsettled from the "constant Barca DNA" stuff their press team of Puyol, Pique, Xavi + <insert greasy Catalan twat> came out with.

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    You have to be annoyed with Arsenal, not Barca. It wasn't like a Van Persie/Nasri/Sagna situation where contracts were running out. We accepted a low offer for Cesc and also Song, Hleb and Henry when they had many years of their contract left. I don't think Liverpool would've sold for those bids. If they don't get their £75m for Suarez, they'll make him stay whether he likes it or not. We weren't tough enough.

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    I think it's Liverpool in the weaker position here. Only last year they signed him up to a new contract, put all that effort in to 'rehabilitate' him and made noises he's going nowhere. Only a season later they realise what a disaster he is to have at their club and have to sell. They'll pitch it at 80m but they'll sell for less. Barca, Suarez and everyone else knows they have to.

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    Why do they have to sell?

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    I agree, they don't have to sell and deep down they already knew what trouble he was....but they will have their price for him. Their fans would pardon Hitler if he could play a bit. I expected Suarez to leave this summer even before he took to Imperitor Chiellini's shoulder. I just thought that it would be to Real rather than Barca. But if it happens, somebody at Barca will need to give way and get pissed off. We would do well to capitalise.

    On this Barca still owe us money thing, it is obviously true that they do but paying transfers in 2-4 instalments over a few years is a pretty standard arrangement between many teams and an awful lot of deals are done this way. I suspect that Barca will be happy to keep the arrangement in place as it is as many teams do, even in repeat negotiations with the team they have the arrangement with. We won't necessarily factor it in and offset the amount in any deal involving Barca imo.

    As far as I can see, we are going to pay some way over the odds for a world class CF(who may well be unideal too ability wise)...or a little over the odds for a world class wide forward and that is why Sanchez who really is flavour of the month on here, represents a very good deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    I agree, they don't have to sell and deep down they already knew what trouble he was....but they will have their price for him. Their fans would pardon Hitler if he could play a bit. I expected Suarez to leave this summer even before he took to Imperitor Chiellini's shoulder. I just thought that it would be to Real rather than Barca. But if it happens, somebody at Barca will need to give way and get pissed off. We would do well to capitalise.

    On this Barca still owe us money thing, it is obviously true that they do but paying transfers in 2-4 instalments over a few years is pretty standard arrangement between many teams and awful lot of deals are done this way. I suspect that Barca will be happy to keep the arrangement in place as it is as many teams do, even in repeat negotiations with the team they have the arrangement with. We won't necessarily factor it in and offset the amount in any deal involving Barca imo.

    As far as I can see, we are going to pay some way over the odds for a CF...or a little over the odds for a wide forward and that is why Sanchez who really is flavour of the month on here, represents a very good deal.

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