Did he bully you at school or does he remind you of someone who did?Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
This all sounds pretty personal and aggressive.
Did he bully you at school or does he remind you of someone who did?
Fans arguing in the stadium
Vid: https://twitter.com/pvkichulo/status/764870134624358400
Guy on left with Bergkamp on his back started chanting 'one arsene wenger' before the Ox goal. People wanted to swing for him smh.
Cripps?
The biggest dilemma I am facing right now is whether I hate Wenger more, or Mourinho. This will be a close race till the end of the season.. I think Wenger will win the first place trophy in this case.
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
To be honest i am not even sure what it is, i think it hails back to watching someone of his video blogs and finding it laughable how inarticulate he was. I did insult him on twitter by stating that he should buy himself a thesaurus before his next video and he replied making a comment about not going on the internet without my mum's permission which is a bit of a poor comeback but certainly nothing i was offended by.Did he bully you at school or does he remind you of someone who did?
The guy always seems to be around when trouble kicks off and there is fisticuffs, and he strikes me as one of those people who probably ends up in punch ups with other arsenal fans.
But my point is still valid, it seems ridiculous to insult other people for not taking a stand when you are still going to games.....but i get the impression in part from today's interview he gave that he'd be quite happy to make his point by rioting.
I think in fairness he brings out my inner snob
To be fair i think they are all a waste of space on Arsenal Fan TV, I have occasionally spoken to Moh on Twitter (although never debated Arsenal, he's a massive Corbyn fan and i can't abide the guy although i feel i can better articulate this than i can my antipathy towards DT) but really as i said the other day they are all a cross between police academy and the muppets. The only one i really don't mind is Bully who unlike the others does not take himself too seriously, Robbie is a clear agent provocateur who subliminally goads these guys for online ratings...nothing wrong with that per se either.
Last edited by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie; 14-08-2016 at 10:34 PM.
Of all the viral characters on AFTV, this guy has always been the one who speaks the most sense.
My thoughts.
Fans like DT are stuck in a time when football and society were intertwined. Your local club was a focus for local support. The club played a big role in the community. Fans belonged to the club and the club belonged to the fans, both relied on each other. I guess many of us are at least reminiscent of that time.
Now the football club is a global entity and it has started to attract large numbers of consumers. Individuals who call themselves fans but really only attend in the same way they'd visit any consumer attraction. There's no tribalism for them, no real notion of support beyond Arsenal being their favourite brand. Why else do you think football has been so sanitised over the years? To cater for more of these consumers. So when a bunch of consumers stand up and start claiming their iPhone is better than you Samsung, which is what consumer support amounts to, but you are still invested in concepts such as tribalism and competition and probably a family tradition going way back, I'm sure it seems strange and more than a little irritating. You may be fighting to restore something you held important while a bunch of fashion slaves around you belittle it all because they are getting what they want - brand association, comfier seats, spotting themselves on the big screen, taking selfies with the players. And of course as the players themselves morph into celebrities then the problem gets worse and you get an even more undesirable type attracted to football.
Basically the game has been robbed from under the working man for peanuts and converted into a billion quid money spinner designed to soak the wallets of the middle classes. The working classes are being slowly eased out. There's bound to be a reaction from the diehards who aren't ready to give up their club, give up their passion, abandon their tribalism.
I must admit that for me I decided not to have that fight. If younger I'm sure it would have been different. But not at this stage of my life. I have long experience now of how utterly destroyed a thing inevitably becomes once corporate interests have landed on it. Taking this on, head-on, is a futile gesture. And short term win can be easily overcome by money. You have to disrupt and harass at a much more fundamental level if you want to keep the corporation from taking everything of meaning in life. But then again, in places like Yugoslavia, grass roots football fans have made huge differences. It all depends on the condition of a society, and ours is in a probably unparalleled shit state right now. So you never know, the direct assault might not be hopeless.
Make no mistake though, the conflict between the fans and the consumers will only increase in intensity. The fans may not win but it's entirely unreasonable to insist they go down without a fight, if that's what they want to do. It's their right, at least they are fighting for something that once existed. The consumers are slavishly defending something that was never real and can never be real, corporate reciprocation. The poor saps just feel honoured to be relieved of their money I suspect. Like the mentally unbalanced crowds queuing outside Apple stores when an even worse version of the iPhone is released. I don't mean that in a derogatory way, I think such people must have serious mental issues. Rather like those who still defend the club because they have confused history and tradition (or never understood it in the first place) with the looters who say they stand for these values. It's so naive you have to question their sanity or, as DT does when he calls them pussies, their courage and self respect.
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HCZ is the same as me. When he hates somebody he does it properly.Did he bully you at school or does he remind you of someone who did?
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Apparently this was the same guy who held the 'ashamed of fans' banner last yearFans arguing in the stadium
Vid: https://twitter.com/pvkichulo/status/764870134624358400
Guy on left with Bergkamp on his back started chanting 'one arsene wenger' before the Ox goal. People wanted to swing for him smh.
Cripps?
I hate Wenger more right now
I hate what he does. I think it would be hard to hate him if you met him face to face. He seems like an amiable guy, on the surface anyway. Buy he's a complete idiot of a football manager.
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