I’d rather the morons out there tonight suffer instead.Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I’d rather the morons out there tonight suffer instead.
unfair, they need some scoring power, they're good at setting up chances but somebody needs to be there to put them away
The only Moron is the Lego haired one who has had nine transfer windows to buy a striker and has this need to control games, rather than actually attack teams with pace and stretch the play
Especially at home we get caught out by the counter or by one long ball where because the build up play is so slow we have to overcommit bodies. End of the day Havertz, Trossard etc are never going to be world class goal scorers…they are squad players at best…but we frankly need to have a bit of colonic irrigation in our game to open up a backed up opposition
Last edited by HCZ_Reborn; 07-01-2025 at 10:10 PM.
Don't you give health advice or something like that for a living?
Anyway, I think my argument is simple enough for anyone. If we had reliable personnel that their main job is to be clinical, we could have escaped with something today.
Now we are just going to have to listen to you and Arteta making excuses about teams playing deep, till the next team beats us by having forwards who are clinical.
On the brightside, this is now another trophy Arteta doesn't have to worry about so we can get a rest.
Imagine being beat by the same team/trick twice in less than 4 months....lets wait for you guys to roll out the stats again of how we are not doing that badly compared to last season.
Are you old enough to remember Worzel Gummidge?
He was a scarecrow. A man made out of cloth and straw….thats what you’re attacking right now
Almost nothing you’re saying bares any resemblance to any argument I’ve made
How honestly can I believe you when you’re telling me you read what I’m saying when you’ve concluded I’m defending Arteta
I wouldn’t mind but you have spectacularly good form for doing this. At the moment you are in exactly the same frame of mind as you were when you had a meltdown over us not signing Mudryk.
Last edited by HCZ_Reborn; 07-01-2025 at 10:19 PM.
This is starting to feel like just before I completely lost interest in football.
Not sure I'll make it to the end of the season tbh.
Oh no please don’t go. Where will we be without you
IMO HCZ, you subconsciously defend him all the time.
Or rather, let me put it like this, Mac once said you are unhappy if anyone critiques Arteta except you, and I happen to believe it as you've shown so much evidence of double-speak, that it's a bit mind blowing.
Anyway, keeping it simple, we did enough today not to end up being embarrassingly beaten 0-2 in front of our fans, 1-2, 2-3 or even 3-2 but definitely not 0-2...we just needed someone who could finish.
Lets just get someone, anyone ( at least a half decent one) this January, so we can hopefully have something to play for this season.
Like IBK said, we can make a go of it in the CL, but we will still need a finisher as we can't draw our way to the final...at least I can't remember that ever being done (this game should also help prove that).
Last edited by 21_GOONER_SALUTE; 07-01-2025 at 10:36 PM.
I'll just post exclusively in General Chat, don't worry.
I know you’re not exactly an intellectual heavyweight but is that the best you can do
When I accuse people of saying one thing and believing another, I’m usually trying to bait them so I can only assume that’s what you’re doing.
If I criticise an argument Mac makes about Arteta it’s not in defence of Arteta it’s because it’s a stupid argument. Like the whole Xhaka teacher’s pet thing. People said the same thing to me about reading Arteta’s body language in that awful documentary series…I don’t think they were doing so to defend Arteta.
But you must realise how deranged you sound when you make that accusation. If you don’t think our club should be run like Chelsea in the way it treats coaches, If you don’t agree with me that it’s a striker and only a striker that was the issue tonight then you must secretly be defending Arteta. Apart from being petulantly childish, it’s a big old reach.
It’s reminds me of the tribal attitude I hate in politics. You’re either in this camp or you’re in that camp. I get accused by leftists of being right wing and by frothing right wingers of being a libtard. Because it’s about purity circles and allegiance signalling rather than actually looking at each individual issue and coming to conclusions
I want Arteta gone because even without a striker I think this team is good enough to be leading the title race. I honestly don’t give a fuck about tonight, we missed chances but we really don’t create enough chances to begin with. I think what Arteta has done well is given us a good team for controlling the game against the big teams…our record against the likes of Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Spurs etc has drastically improved. Where we failed last season was against sides competing for top ten spots who are hard to break down…I think you need both a Rice and Partey away at City and Liverpool. You don’t need both in most home games nor do you need an inverted full back giving you an extra man in the middle of the park for breaking up play.
What I’d like to see is a coach that largely keeps what Arteta has done but is more flexible…so that we aren’t playing two holding players against spastic teams like Everton and Ipswich. I’m not into throwing out the baby with the bath water. You presumably want rid of Martinelli and Havertz, I don’t…Havertz should be a squad player and Martinelli either needs to up his game or become a squad player.
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