No, but if a player doesn't pull his weight, he gets the boot.Originally Posted by Coney
Forlan, from what I saw, didn't lack work ethic. He just didn't fit in.
Man management is what it's about. There is a massive difference between Wenger and Fergie in that respect. And you're lying yo ass off if you say otherwise.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Struggling for form is one thing, but there is no excuse for not working hard.
For the goal they scored, he was marking nobody and could have picked up the guy that got the free header and he stood and watched as that shot rattled our bar. Wenger shouldn't pick him if he's going to play that way. No point in making excuses for him saying it's a lack of confidence. Sometimes it is but at times he looks plain lazy.
I don't know, maybe Wenger has told him to stay forwards and save his energy if he's struggling on defence. Some coaches do that when they have players that are more lethal on attack. Watched a documentary on Ginola a few days ago and Keegan told Ginola not to worry about defence and just attack. Worked a treat. Could be the same for Arshavin. Maybe Wenger has told him to focus on attacj since he's struggling with his form.
You leave my ass alone, gaydo.
I agree there is a massive difference between Wenger and Fergie in how they manage their players. However, what that means is that they will presumably buy different players partly depending on how they feel they can motivate them. Some people respond to a kick up the arse, some respond better to gentle guidance.
Forlan was just a young lad fresh out of South America though. No experience of European football, culture or anything.
You can't say the same for Arshavin who was a well established player.
This, a wib is what we needed and a win is what we got. No team cares much about perfomaces in the group stages. Eveb Barca are not at their best (Scary i know).
On to Marsille tbh
Tbf its not hard to be Awlsoem for Zenit tbh, even thought they are a good team they are not a world class team are they. As for Arshavin, he has has always been lazy even before we got him and euro 2008 is a good example for that.
Even though he had some good games he disapered in big games too when Russia needed him. Right now he is not motivated and would like to be playing with better players around him but needs to be more professional.
Last edited by Olivier's xmas twist; 29-09-2011 at 06:47 PM.
Zenit won the Uefa Cup that year with Arshavin playing a starring role, not sure what them not being world class has to do with his ability to perform. I don't get the logic, we're not a world class team either but he's pretty average for us.
His performances at Euro 2008 threw him into the spotlight, he was one of the players of the tournament, in fact probably the best player outside the Spanish squad. So I have no idea how you've come to the conclusion that Euro 2008 illustrated his poor work ethic.
Maybe it is harsh to blame Wenger fully, but I really don't believe this is the same guy we signed in Jan 2009. He was so explosive. Now he can barely do the basics right, consistently gives away the ball and we'll be lucky to see him take on and beat his man just once in a game.
Last edited by Marc Overmars; 29-09-2011 at 02:24 PM.
Veron then.....
A better example.
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