At least he is gone - about the only thing he managed to do right.Originally Posted by GayPete
At least he is gone - about the only thing he managed to do right.
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People confuse 8 years of not winning with the whole period being monotonous. I believe in the early years, there were genuine constraints on Wenger - right when an unprecedented amount of money was being spunked by some clubs.
However, I think he got in a comfort zone and there was a general level of contentment amongst him and our hierarchy to finish top 4 and pocket CL money and this continued through to the past 3-4 years where a shift in strategy was possible. Also, where Wenger and the Club went wrong - is they banked on this stratgy producing future great players and rewarded them appropriately before this 'greatness' was achieved. The result being that under the strategy employed, those who did go on to realise their talent were actually underrewarded while the likes of Bendtner were grossly over rewarded. Consequently, this strategy resulted in us losing pretty much all our best players season after season after season. So perversely, we wasted an awful lot of money while being perceived as being cheap.
This strategy seems to have been consigned to the dust bin. Even in the early days of our awful transfer window - we saw this strategy shift. A lot of effort clearly went into getting rid of those who were over rewarded while delivering little. And now we have potentially had a 'Bergkamp moment' with the signing of Ozil. For the first time in a long time, there is a sense of hope.
Getting that first big signing in - was always going to be tough - cue the reaction of general surprise and hilarity when we pursued Suarez. People, not least ourselves as Arsenal fans did not see us as being serious. If we felt that - imagine what top players thought. Now that we have signed Ozil, surely that perception has to have changed - this should manifest itself in future transfer windows.
We wanted a change in approach/stratgy, we've got it. The least we can do now is get behind it and give the people employing that strategy a chance to deliver on it.
And that includes Wenger.
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I meant more in terms of the way we play, formation, tactics and piss poor substitutions that we were used to seeing every week for 8 years rather than financially.
But yes, we'll give them a chance, but surely that's what I said above?
Lets see what they do this season before we start handing out a new contract to wenger.
I agree lets wait for the contract, but with your point about piss poor tactics etc, I think that's harsh. Yes wenger used to be bad at it, focus on ourselves not opposition etc. but you don't pick up the most points in 2013 if you don't do tactics etc. I think wenger has changed recently, our side is tough to beat. Since spurs game in march. We have lost once. Villa at home.
You do realise there was a 3 month gap of where no football was played don't you?
Happy to see how the next few months pan out because Özil certainly injects the team with super quality, however the doubts still remain and won't go away until we actually do something on the pitch to allay them.
I'm not going to believe we can do anything more than 3rd/4th until, well, we actually do.
Seen enough false dawns at this club to last a lifetime.
Last edited by Marc Overmars; 08-09-2013 at 10:36 AM.
Its not harsh, just fact mate.
That's why I said the last eight years and not recently
Mostly agree with that. With limited funds we picked the wrong strategy and it has cost us dearly. The wage structure rewarded the wrong players and made it very difficult for us to hold on to real talent in the squad. Even with limited funds, I can't understand why we'd spread the cost of £30m-£50m on group of average players instead of spending a good bulk on one or two first team ready world class players. That's essentially what we've done this window. We've only spent £40m on a player. We spent more on players in the last two windows.
The squad will need time and I hope we've really turned a corner but I'm still unsure of Wenger. Very hesitant to say he should get a new contract right now. I'm waiting to see what the squad looks like in January and what we'll do if we need more additions to the squad. Also, I want to see a challenge for the title this year. If it gets to December and we're already out of the race and struggling, I think that's enough. If we can't make use of a player like Ozil than there is nothing left he can really offer. I hope it doesn't come down to that and it shouldn't because he should have the skills to really push us forward with this team.
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I really dont see why the euphoria over us getting a world class player...at last should translate into Wenger getting a new contract. We have been here before, with Arshavin. Wenger is the weak link in all our teams, always has been. To be able to win the big prizes you need top players AND a top manager too. Wenger has conistently failed at every major obstacle put in front of him. If he stays,,soon enough the top players will leave us in frustration. You need at least 6 great players to make upfor Arsenes tactical deficits. Right now we have 2.
I think Wenegr was always going to be offered a new contract. The media are just hyping it up because of the Ozil deal.
I'm also seeing alot of outlets are saying we are closing in to sign that Romanian dude and that Spuds are looking at him too. He scored against Hungary the other night. Is he worth a punt?
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