Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Marc Overmars]

There are strikers that can do close to everything but those are the elite who are probably unattainable for us and in some cases, certainly unattainable.

Most "regular" strikers will excel in some way or another but maybe have certain weaknesses too, like any player really. Some of the names I've seen get poo-poo'd on here leave me wondering if we're asking for something that just isn't realistic. Wrighty and Henry had average scoring records before they joined us but went to become record breakers, sometimes it just a case of a player finding the right environment to perform.

[Özim]

Griezmann, Higuain, Lewandowski.

I'd say two of those three are attainable if we got in early and paid up, Griezmann being French helps as well, only thing that counts against Higuain is him being 29.

Griezmann is perfect in every way, much like we should have gone for Aguero before he signed for City we should snap up Griezmann before he moves to another club and scores a hatful for them and we're left with no chance of getting him.

If you won't pay up you won't get of course and that's why we'll end up with dogshite up front.

[Power n Glory]

And unless that changes then it really doesn't matter who we sign. Sign Messi, it will make no difference. Which is why Wenger going for Vardy is encouraging. Maybe he is finally waking up? Of course maybe he has simply seen the £20mill tag and has a notion he can turn him into a holding midfielder. You can never tell with Wenger.

Have you seen Messi and Barca? Especially when under Pep?

[Niall_Quinn]

Have you seen Messi and Barca? Especially when under Pep?

Yes. More boring than Arsenal, BUT... 150x more talented in the final third, AND... every player is up to scratch, no freebies or cheapsters stinking out the place. Pep's football is truly horrible, but he makes sure it is executed properly at the very least. Wenger doesn't do that. Too many of his players can't pass, cross, shoot, tackle or defend.

[Power n Glory]

Exactly. RVP at his best. Suarez is another.

We're after a player who can work with limited space and take advantage of dangerous situations quickly and cleverly. Bring others into play, and be ruthless.

Vardy is someone you need when you're able to counter attack. Which we don't...as nine times out of ten we're playing backwards and forwards across two banks of four.

Hence why I like that Dutch kid or would rather we took a chance on finding a winger and converting them or even switching Sanchez to that role. It's not about the name. It's about ability and looking at what sort of goals and chances a striker thrives off. From what we've seen of Vardy, he's taking advantage of defenders running back on themselves.

[Power n Glory]

I honestly don't think that player exists.

I don't think you or any of us on here watch enough football to draw such conclusions.

[Özim]

Hence why I like that Dutch kid or would rather we took a chance on finding a winger and converting them or even switching Sanchez to that role. It's not about the name. It's about ability and looking at what sort of goals and chances a striker thrives off. From what we've seen of Vardy, he's taking advantage of defenders running back on themselves.

Yeah I'd rather take a chance if we don' sign a top guy, I know all about Vardy and for me he's not up to it, the Janssen guy could potentially be very good, he may not work out but he's cheap anyway so if he doesn't we sell him on, but if he does we have a ready made goalscorer who's got years ahead of him unlike Vardy.

[Power n Glory]

So basically we need a striker that can do it all. Should be easy to find then...

It's not but that's where scouts come in. People only talk about strikers like Aubameyang and Lewandowski after they've been discovered. They weren't always worth trillions and considered elite. Why are we always slow on the uptake and having to hear Wenger bullshit us with another 'I could have signed him earlier' story.

[Niall_Quinn]

A player who can work with limited space and take advantage of dangerous situations quickly and cleverly.

And as a bonus, a player who gets in the box, actually knows which direction the goal is in and doesn't spend his whole time missing sitters and pulling faces.

Who is seriously saying this guy couldn't help us fix the immense flaws we have in the striker department right now? You can't be serious. A lot of speciality Arsenal snobbery going on here. The glory days are getting further in the past, time we snapped out of it and started looking to make some new glory days.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yeah I'd rather take a chance if we don' sign a top guy, I know all about Vardy and for me he's not up to it, the Janssen guy could potentially be very good, he may not work out but he's cheap anyway so if he doesn't we sell him on, but if he does we have a ready made goalscorer who's got years ahead of him unlike Vardy.

Second top scorer, title under his belt, player of the year, leading the line for England and scoring. What's the criteria for being up to it?